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Posted: 21 Nov 2016, 10:15
by 7bit
GriffDeLaGriff wrote: This is a crazy situation. There could be money to collect and we don't even know?
I would do it but I'm like totally in the EU...
...
Yes, please!!!

Posted: 21 Nov 2016, 10:25
by 7bit
Menuhin wrote: rominronin wrote: 7bit wrote:
I will post some photos tomorrow.

YAY!
7bit wrote: I still need someone to collect PayPal money!!!!

I was considering collecting PayPal money for the buy, but then I thought 'why don't you collect it?' - I seem to remember there being a reason - something to do with being in the EU?
I'm also in the EU, does that mean I can't?
Simple: my PayPal account is locked and I could not get it running again.
You don't need to run a business. You order key caps from me, worth $2500 which is not unusual.
Ideally, people who collect money are located in the USA so there are less transfer fees and no currency conversion fees when the money is sent to Signature Plastics.
Posted: 21 Nov 2016, 13:36
by rominronin
Thanks for the info 7bit.
Volunteers? Alternative ideas? Anything to hurry the process along?
Posted: 21 Nov 2016, 14:38
by Ail
rominronin wrote: Thanks for the info 7bit.
Volunteers? Alternative ideas? Anything to hurry the process along?
Christmas is coming, maybe we can ask Santa to collect the money.
Posted: 21 Nov 2016, 19:59
by zslane
7bit wrote: Simple: my PayPal account is locked and I could not get it running again.
I think this is what everyone fears will happen to their PayPal account if they get involved as a payment proxy.
It would be helpful to hear from past collectors (evilcamels, mashby, SL89) what problems they ran into, and how to avoid those problems. There is a thorny confidence problem standing in the way right now.
Posted: 21 Nov 2016, 21:06
by 7bit
Somebody from Norway offered help and he asked me some questions like what about currency conversion when sending USD money from NOK account and forward it to SP USD again or even worse to me EUR and then USD again.
The main reason why it is best to have someone in the USA is to have no currency conversion fees added!
So, please someone from the USA step forward and help!''Ideally, more than one would do it so the load is spread accoss more than one persion. stevepet is already doing Google Wallet, I'm collecting EUR payments (I need the money to buy stamps and package material). so what we need is someone who collects the money from all those who are not loacated in Europe or USA!

Posted: 21 Nov 2016, 21:18
by Griffy
That sounds like one hell of a dude!

Posted: 21 Nov 2016, 21:20
by Griffy
But I just fiddled some and it looks like if I can collect in USD and send in USD there is no fee. I cant be sure but it looks right.
Posted: 21 Nov 2016, 21:44
by zslane
Somehow I doubt that people who are not located in Europe or USA will be paying in USD.
Posted: 21 Nov 2016, 22:13
by Wodan
zslane wrote: Somehow I doubt that people who are not located in Europe or USA will be paying in USD.
The whole GB is run in USD, SEPA participants just get a very favourable conversion to EUR by 7bot.
Posted: 21 Nov 2016, 22:46
by zslane
Wodan wrote: zslane wrote: Somehow I doubt that people who are not located in Europe or USA will be paying in USD.
The whole GB is run in USD, SEPA participants just get a very favourable conversion to EUR by 7bot.
Well, sure, it is being run in USD in the sense that SP requires
its payment(s) in USD. But I was responding to Griff's observation that people paying in USD won't incur a fee with PayPal. That may be true, but we're talking about customers whose personal funds are not in USD and won't be paying the proxy in USD.
Posted: 21 Nov 2016, 23:00
by mecano
Conversion fees are on their own then, that is what happen when I pay something invoiced in USD with my Euros and it is handled by Paypal. Once on an account there is no logical reason for Paypal to make another conversion if the money already in USD is not withdrawn and is used directly to pay something in USD, is there?
Posted: 21 Nov 2016, 23:11
by Griffy
All caps are listed in US Dollars. There is no confusion here.
Posted: 22 Nov 2016, 16:27
by cihusss
Hey Guys when is phase 1 shipping?
Posted: 22 Nov 2016, 16:34
by Wodan
I believe 7bit was suggesting some of the phase 1 colors might be sorted and ready for shipping before christmas.
Don't ask for dates though ... manage your expectations.
Posted: 22 Nov 2016, 20:18
by Lipton
Has anyone gotten their keys for Round 5 yet? I ordered back in March
I've been told that the manufacturer hasn't sent the keys yet?
Posted: 23 Nov 2016, 01:12
by Tyr
GriffDeLaGriff wrote: But I just fiddled some and it looks like if I can collect in USD and send in USD there is no fee. I cant be sure but it looks right.
My Paypal certainly has 2 balances: 1 in EUR and 1 in USD. It doesn't look like they automatically convert funds received in one currency to the other, keeping them separate.
I'm tempted to volunteer, but on the other hand I don't really want to have that conversation with the taxman.
Re: Round 5 in stock / Round 6 in production / extra kits for sale!!!
Posted: 23 Nov 2016, 06:55
by caligo
Lipton wrote:Has anyone gotten their keys for Round 5 yet? I ordered back in March
I've been told that the manufacturer hasn't sent the keys yet?
Most people got their Round 5 orders ages ago. If you ordered Round 5 leftovers back in March, you should've gotten them by now. However, if you ordered keys from Round 6 (which was initially called Round 5a) you're in the same boat as everyone else – none of those keys have been shipped yet, and only half of them have been produced.
Posted: 23 Nov 2016, 07:11
by Veggis
Lipton wrote: Has anyone gotten their keys for Round 5 yet? I ordered back in March
I've been told that the manufacturer hasn't sent the keys yet?
I ordered mine over two years ago

Posted: 23 Nov 2016, 19:47
by 7bit
Ignoring all the troubly with money collecting and about $10,000 not yet being paid to SP by mashby and SL89, I will have all the blue and SPH-grey kits finished by tomorrow, so I can start with the violett and cream keys on Friday.
At this speed I will be able to send out all orders for the firts half before Christmas 2016!
I still need a PayPal collector who is located in the USA. Maybe more than one so the load will not be too much for each!
BTW: These keys look so great, everybody who jumps off right now is totally stupid!
There are some extra kits, just ask the bot for an updated list!

Posted: 23 Nov 2016, 19:50
by 7bit
zslane wrote: ...
Well, sure, it is being run in USD in the sense that SP requires
its payment(s) in USD. But I was responding to Griff's observation that people paying in USD won't incur a fee with PayPal. That may be true, but we're talking about customers whose personal funds are not in USD and won't be paying the proxy in USD.
Conversion before PayPal, by your local bank is much cheaper than what PayPal charges!
Posted: 23 Nov 2016, 22:47
by elsoupo
Hey everyone, i was forced to move recently and was hoping to change my shipping address on my order, anyone care to explain how?
Posted: 23 Nov 2016, 22:51
by rominronin
7bit wrote: BTW: These keys look so great, everybody who jumps off right now is totally stupid!

Posted: 23 Nov 2016, 22:55
by zslane
elsoupo wrote: Hey everyone, i was forced to move recently and was hoping to change my shipping address on my order, anyone care to explain how?
Just send a PM to
7bot formatted like this:
ADDRESS
<your name and address here>
<and don't forget to include your country>
7bot should know what order(s) it applies to based on your username.
Posted: 23 Nov 2016, 22:57
by elsoupo
Thanks zslane!
Posted: 24 Nov 2016, 03:14
by Ail
7bit wrote:
BTW: These keys look so great, everybody who jumps off right now is totally stupid!
You say this like any of us have a choice!

Posted: 24 Nov 2016, 14:05
by 7bit
Ail wrote: 7bit wrote:
BTW: These keys look so great, everybody who jumps off right now is totally stupid!
You say this like any of us have a choice!

There is no choice!
But: Did I ever mention that we need someone to collect PayPal money?

Posted: 24 Nov 2016, 14:57
by rominronin
Someone, take our damned monies already!
Posted: 24 Nov 2016, 18:11
by phinix
Did PMK took off Status page from their website?:)
Posted: 24 Nov 2016, 19:04
by 7bit
Ail wrote: 7bit wrote:
BTW: These keys look so great, everybody who jumps off right now is totally stupid!
You say this like any of us have a choice!

And we have a lucky winner!
Ail is located in the USA and will collect money until December 31!
