Posted: 25 Nov 2016, 22:26
Was it an invoice? Invoices always have fees no matter what currency. If you just use F&F to request or send money in the same currency there shouldn't be a fee, at least that's what my experience has been.
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Posted: 25 Nov 2016, 22:28
No, it wasn't a PayPal invoice, it was the 7bot invoice. It had a % fee in it for using PayPal. But if there are no fees for going from USD to USD, then there must be other fees being incurred.
Posted: 25 Nov 2016, 22:38
Posted: 25 Nov 2016, 22:39
Posted: 26 Nov 2016, 01:00
There's 2 kind of fees:
- currency conversion fee
- Paypal transaction fee
The second one varies on wether both are in the same country, if the payment is made from credit card or not, if it's a gift or not, etc. You will often see people selling stuff stipulating that this fee is to be paid by the buyer, not the seller.
Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 06:35
Did PMK remove the status page?
Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 08:34
It should be here: http://pimpmykeyboard.com/whats-new/
But it doesn't matter much right now since it lists no upcoming keycap sets.
But it doesn't matter much right now since it lists no upcoming keycap sets.
Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 10:49
I'm quite sure I will have finished sorting by the end of the upcomming week.
To all people who pay in EUR: I need your money to pay for shipping!
To all people who pay in EUR: I need your money to pay for shipping!
Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 19:39
Thereare some extra kits available:
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HONEYB/ALPHA/E/SPH |$65|ALPHA grey kit
HONEYB/ALPHA/E/VIOLETT |$65|ALPHA violett kit
HONEYB/ISO/BLUE |$14|ISO blue kit
HONEYB/UK/SPH | $9|UK grey kit
HONEYB/UK/BLUE | $9|UK blue kit
HONEYB/UK/VIOLETT | $9|UK violett kit
HONEYB/UK/CREAM | $9|UK cream kit
HONEYB/US/VIOLETT |$29|US violett kit
HONEYB/INTER/SPH |$45|Inter kit (DE,DK,NO,SE)
HONEYB/INTER/CREAM |$45|Inter kit (DE,DK,NO,SE)
HONEYB/COLEMAK/SPH |$19|COLEMAK SPH-grey
HONEYB/HHKBMOD/VIOLETT |$21|Modifier keys for HHKB
HONEYB/F1TOF12/VIOLETT |$12|F1-F12 (row 1, 1 unit)
HONEYB/FUNCTION/VIOLETT |$39|Function (row 1-4;1 u)
HONEYB/FUNCTION3/BLUE |$32|Function (row 1-4)
HONEYB/SPACE400/BLUE | $7|Space (4u; blue)
HONEYB/SPACE400/VIOLETT | $7|Space (4u; violett)
HONEYB/SPACE400/CREAM | $7|Space (4u; cream)
HONEYB/SPACE625/SPH | $5|Space (6.25u; grey)
HONEYB/SPACE700/BLUE | $7|Space (7u; blue)
Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 20:15
Right, so there will be the two fees as listed in the "International sales" row of the PayPal help text. A 3.9% transaction fee plus a fixed fee for currency conversion. Does the PAYPAL kit add enough to the invoice amount to cover both fees? If not, then the proxy is stuck with paying the difference out of his own pocket.Tyr wrote:There's 2 kind of fees:
- currency conversion fee
- Paypal transaction fee
The second one varies on wether both are in the same country, if the payment is made from credit card or not, if it's a gift or not, etc. You will often see people selling stuff stipulating that this fee is to be paid by the buyer, not the seller.
Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 20:38
Rubbish!!!
There are 2 amounts: money received and money paid. money received is with all fees subtracted, so it is the amount that is really there. For simplicity, the bot takes 4% to roughly cover those fees. Because of those per transaction fees, small payments cost a bit more than those 4% but on avarage there is not much loss.
There are 2 amounts: money received and money paid. money received is with all fees subtracted, so it is the amount that is really there. For simplicity, the bot takes 4% to roughly cover those fees. Because of those per transaction fees, small payments cost a bit more than those 4% but on avarage there is not much loss.
Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 20:41
I appreciate the merits of keeping the bot simple. If 4% is enough to cover the 3.9% international sales transaction fee plus the fixed currency conversion fee, then there's no problem. If not, well who is expected to cover the difference? The proxy?
Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 20:47
The rest is covered by the prices. If only one package is lost and I have to re-ship from the reserve, or have to refund, the loss is higher.
But again:
PP collector receives x $$$ and sends x $$$ to SP. No loss for the PP collector, but a 5% VIP rebate on all his orders!
But again:
PP collector receives x $$$ and sends x $$$ to SP. No loss for the PP collector, but a 5% VIP rebate on all his orders!
Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 22:24
Right, okay, I understand now.
I might be able to help out here. I need to look into a couple of things on my end first.
I might be able to help out here. I need to look into a couple of things on my end first.
Posted: 28 Nov 2016, 00:23
Was thinking the same thing. If I start a new PP account, and get it verified, what are the chances Paypal will lock it or look into it with suspicion if I start taking large payments straight away? I can't risk getting my main account locked because I use it for so many things, but if I can start a fresh new account and start collecting, I may consider it.
Posted: 28 Nov 2016, 02:50
It won't be large payments, it will be lots of little payments. I started a new account and am awaiting instructions from 7bit as to how to test and proceed.
Posted: 28 Nov 2016, 03:49
I'll setup a new account tomorrow and go from there.
Posted: 29 Nov 2016, 08:47
this is looking great for people who have yet to make payment! but what about the ones who already made payment to previous collectors like SL89? is it still a 'wait-and-see' situation for us?
Posted: 29 Nov 2016, 09:00
Damn guys this sounds so amazing. Two new PayPal collectors starting up ...
If any of you guys get in trouble, please just leave a short message here so we all know what's up
If any of you guys get in trouble, please just leave a short message here so we all know what's up
Posted: 29 Nov 2016, 15:21
Posted: 29 Nov 2016, 16:06
Did all previous money collectors pay all money to SP?
Posted: 29 Nov 2016, 18:17
Well I can tell you my first hurdle was using a misspelled e-mail address to register the account.
I was waiting all day for a confirmation e-mail from Paypal and realized when I got to work today I misspelled the address and that's why I never got it.Baby steps.
Posted: 29 Nov 2016, 18:26
Posted: 29 Nov 2016, 18:55
7bit has all the info for my proxy PayPal account. Just waiting for him to do whatever he needs to do on his end and then make the announcement.
Posted: 29 Nov 2016, 19:54
I thought you wanted them to pay one by one very slowly, to not stir up any dust.
Except for some small kits, everything is sorted, so I will start to ship on Friday.
Except for some small kits, everything is sorted, so I will start to ship on Friday.
Posted: 29 Nov 2016, 19:57
Posted: 29 Nov 2016, 20:40
If our order is split in both phases, do they ship immediately, or must we wait?
Also, please someone transfer a black 225 shift to me
HONEYB/SIXTYBASE/BLACK |SIXTY base black kit |49.00| 1| 13| 49.00
HONEYB/ALPHA/BLACK |ALPHA black kit |59.00| 1| 49| 59.00
HONEYB/MODBASE125/VIOLETT |Modifier base violett |24.00| 1| 8| 24.00
HONEYB/ESCAPE/BLACK |ESCAPE (row 1, 1 unit) | 2.00| 1| 1| 2.00
HONEYB/ESCAPE/VIOLETT |ESCAPE (row 1, 1 unit) | 2.00| 1| 1| 2.00
HONEYB/BACKSPACE200/VIOLETT|BACK SPACE (row 1, 2u) | 6.00| 1| 1| 6.00
HONEYB/RETURN225/RED |RETURN (row 3, 2.25u) | 6.00| 1| 1| 6.00
HONEYB/RETURN225/VIOLETT |RETURN (row 3, 2.25u) | 6.00| 1| 1| 6.00
HONEYB/SPACE625/BLACK |Space (6.25u; black) | 6.00| 1| 1| 6.00
HONEYB/MODSYM100/RED |Modifier symbols red | 9.00| 1| 9| 9.00
HONEYB/MODSYM100/BLACK |Modifier symbols black | 9.00| 1| 9| 9.00
HONEYB/CAPSLOCK175S/RED |CAPS LOCK (r 3, 1.75 u) | 6.00| 1| 1| 6.00
HONEYB/CAPSLOCK175S/BLACK |CAPS LOCK (r 3, 1.75 u) | 6.00| 1| 1| 6.00
HONEYB/SHIFT225/VIOLETT |SHIFT (row 4, 2.25u) | 5.00| 2| 2| 10.00
HONEYB/SHIFT275/VIOLETT |SHIFT (row 4, 2.75u) | 9.00| 1| 1| 9.00
Also, please someone transfer a black 225 shift to me
HONEYB/SIXTYBASE/BLACK |SIXTY base black kit |49.00| 1| 13| 49.00
HONEYB/ALPHA/BLACK |ALPHA black kit |59.00| 1| 49| 59.00
HONEYB/MODBASE125/VIOLETT |Modifier base violett |24.00| 1| 8| 24.00
HONEYB/ESCAPE/BLACK |ESCAPE (row 1, 1 unit) | 2.00| 1| 1| 2.00
HONEYB/ESCAPE/VIOLETT |ESCAPE (row 1, 1 unit) | 2.00| 1| 1| 2.00
HONEYB/BACKSPACE200/VIOLETT|BACK SPACE (row 1, 2u) | 6.00| 1| 1| 6.00
HONEYB/RETURN225/RED |RETURN (row 3, 2.25u) | 6.00| 1| 1| 6.00
HONEYB/RETURN225/VIOLETT |RETURN (row 3, 2.25u) | 6.00| 1| 1| 6.00
HONEYB/SPACE625/BLACK |Space (6.25u; black) | 6.00| 1| 1| 6.00
HONEYB/MODSYM100/RED |Modifier symbols red | 9.00| 1| 9| 9.00
HONEYB/MODSYM100/BLACK |Modifier symbols black | 9.00| 1| 9| 9.00
HONEYB/CAPSLOCK175S/RED |CAPS LOCK (r 3, 1.75 u) | 6.00| 1| 1| 6.00
HONEYB/CAPSLOCK175S/BLACK |CAPS LOCK (r 3, 1.75 u) | 6.00| 1| 1| 6.00
HONEYB/SHIFT225/VIOLETT |SHIFT (row 4, 2.25u) | 5.00| 2| 2| 10.00
HONEYB/SHIFT275/VIOLETT |SHIFT (row 4, 2.75u) | 9.00| 1| 1| 9.00
Posted: 29 Nov 2016, 22:10
Was this directed to me?
If so, the PayPal account I opened is a business account, and so there should be no restrictions on the amount of payments I can receive or the amount of money I can receive. People can pay whenever they wish, starting right now.
Posted: 29 Nov 2016, 23:34
Is there a difference using the business account? Is the IRS going to come knock the door down in April?
Posted: 29 Nov 2016, 23:45
I'm not sure. But even if PayPal sends me a 1099, I will simply be deducting the entire amount as expenses since it will all be going to SP. The taxable income line item shouldn't be affected.Ail wrote:Is there are difference using the business account? Is the IRS going to come knock the door down in April?