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Posted: 29 Nov 2013, 21:04
by 7bit
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Posted: 29 Nov 2013, 21:05
by 7bit
kzhk wrote:
jeff wrote:
7bit wrote:If they don't not get more orders, they will die in 2 days!

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HONEY/BEPOALPHA       |  2| 51|   39|USD|BEPOALPHA language kit
HONEY/DVORAK          |  1| 26|   24|USD|DVORAK language kit

All other language kits will survive, as long as nobody jumps off, but some might be a little bit more expensive.
OK, hard to listen, but understand. I can't really afford a second kit and without the bepo kit my order is useless. I have 2 days to make up my mind but I think I will have to do a clearall :_( sorry
I will order a bepoalpha (tonight)... not sure it is going to be enough...
Everybody of you should order 2, one for the keyboard and one for the collection!

Re: Round 5 / Honey Sphericals (127.1%) 1 day to go!

Posted: 29 Nov 2013, 21:07
by Yslen
7bit wrote:Image
:roll:
No excuse for not ordering Honey/function/red, it's totally awesome :P

Re: Round 5 / Honey Sphericals (127.1%) 1 day to go!

Posted: 29 Nov 2013, 21:36
by jefferai
Ordering one now. :-)

Does anyone know: on the ErgoDox, are the 1x thumb keys R3 or R4?

Posted: 29 Nov 2013, 21:53
by 7bit
They are all row 3:

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:o

Should I make them row 2?

Posted: 29 Nov 2013, 22:22
by quaker4lyf
I don't have an ErgoDox yet (I'm on the current massdrop GB for it). But I imagine having row 2s for the "upper" thumb keys will make them easier to type? By "upper" I mean not the ones parallel to the vertical thumb keys.

Also 7bit, why does the HONEY/ERGOBASE not have those extra grey and red row 1 keys as in HONEY/ERGO?

Posted: 29 Nov 2013, 22:23
by kzhk
7bit wrote:
Should I make them row 2?
Maybe row 3 for the 2 internals, row 2 for the 2 externals ?

Also I would make the following suggestion :
- row 2 for the 2 keys on top line of each thumb cluster.
- for spare keys : keep row 1 for the 3 on the left, but maybe row 3 for the 3 on the right.

What do you think ?

Posted: 29 Nov 2013, 22:37
by facetsesame
7bit wrote:If it where all row 3, I'd order one for myself.
:-)
The ultimate endorsement!
Ok, if you and jefferai want all row 3... if we could just keep F0 as row 1, I suggest do it! Or am I missing a really good reason for not having F0 match the F number keys?

Posted: 29 Nov 2013, 22:38
by 7bit
:?

Please paint some picture to show what you mean.
:-)

@face it! it is the same:
OK, all row 3, F0 row 1.

Re: Round 5 / Honey Sphericals (127.6%) 1 day to go!

Posted: 29 Nov 2013, 22:41
by jefferai
7bit wrote:They are all row 3:

Image
:o

Should I make them row 2?
No idea. Just asking so I can plan buying appropriately. Don't have my ED yet :-)

Not sure about comfort but all R3 us fine with me in terms of keycap buying. From the picture I wasn't sure if the bottom R4 row extended to the top thumb row or not, hence my asking.

If you do change it, give a heads-up please!

Posted: 29 Nov 2013, 22:43
by solkoseryl
Hello friends,

I'm new here, but I still wanna catch the train while it is still here ;)

I've got 2 questions. I beg of you to kindly answer them for I'm afraid to make a mistake.

1. I'm planning to buy the Filco Majestouch-2 (exactly like this). Which command should I pm to 7bit to order all black Honeywell keys for this keyboard?

2. How to pay (I'm in Russia)? In advance or later? Is credit card accepted?

Thanks in advance, guys!

Re: Round 5 / Honey Sphericals (127.6%) 1 day to go!

Posted: 29 Nov 2013, 22:44
by jefferai
7bit wrote::?

Please paint some picture to show what you mean.
:-)

@face it! it is the same:
OK, all row 3, F0 row 1.
Nice! HONEY/FUNCTION2 ordered!

Posted: 29 Nov 2013, 22:48
by facetsesame
7bit wrote:@face it! it is the same:
OK, all row 3, F0 row 1.
Great, cheers 7bit!
jefferai wrote:Nice! HONEY/FUNCTION2 ordered!
Cheers, thanks for your support! :)

Posted: 29 Nov 2013, 23:11
by farinasa_
solkoseryl wrote: 1. I'm planning to buy the Filco Majestouch-2 (exactly like this). Which command should I pm to 7bit to order all black Honeywell keys for this keyboard?
First make sure you pm "7bot" not 7bit.
Second, if you want all black, the alphas will be blank. There is no set of black letters/top row numbers. If you want blank ansi sculptured:

HONEY/TKL/BASE/BLACK
HONEY/VERTBSL150/BLACK
HONEY/SPACE625/BLACK
HONEY/NUMPAD/BLACK
BLANK/R1U100/BLACK 13
BLANK/R2U100/BLACK 12
BLANK/R3U100/BLACK 11
BLANK/R4U100/BLACK 10
Optional: (REMOVE THIS LINE)
BLANK/R3U100C/BLACK 2
BLANK/R3U100D/BLACK 2
youremail@yourdomain.tld
ADDRESS
Walter Cherry
Cherrystr. 1
91275 Auerbach/OPf.
DE

(replace with your address)

Someone else might want to chime in if I missed something.

Posted: 29 Nov 2013, 23:19
by Halvar
If you want captions on your keys, you'll have the choice between white and red letter keys. Look for the "TKL" sets in the wiki. You need one of those plus a numpad kit (e.g. HONEY/NUMPAD/BLACK ) plus a 6,25u space bar.

Posted: 29 Nov 2013, 23:23
by kzhk
7bit wrote::?

Please paint some picture to show what you mean.
:-)
Proposed change to Honey Ergo sample
Proposed change to Honey Ergo sample
HONEY_ERGO_sample_change.png (34.42 KiB) Viewed 4648 times

Posted: 29 Nov 2013, 23:24
by facetsesame
btw solkoseryl, the optional keys are for row 3, the middle (home) row. To mark F and J, you can have 2 deep dish keys (BLANK/R3U100D/BLACK) or 2 central nub keys (BLANK/R3U100C/BLACK), or just regular keys. Whatever your choice, you'll need 11 keys for row 3 :)

Payment is by Paypal, so if you can use a credit card through Paypal that should be fine. 7bit prefers payment sooner, but they aren't due yet I think.

Posted: 29 Nov 2013, 23:28
by quaker4lyf
kzhk wrote:
7bit wrote::?

Please paint some picture to show what you mean.
:-)
HONEY_ERGO_sample_change.png
I'm stuck on a chromebook, can't draw :)

For me, what I meant was the same as kzhk's but without the vertical thumb keys change (nor the spare keys)

Posted: 29 Nov 2013, 23:35
by 7bit
Throw away the chromebook and get a paintbook instead!
:mad:

Posted: 29 Nov 2013, 23:40
by kzhk
The more I think about it, the more my proposal about the spare keys look silly. I don't have any use for those 3 keys so I don't really care. But it looks like the most logical use for them is in row 1.

Posted: 29 Nov 2013, 23:44
by 7bit
With the 2x3 spare keys you can replace the ERGO DOX keys by grey or red keys or have matching 1.5 units red keys instead of the greys, so they must be row 1.

Posted: 29 Nov 2013, 23:59
by solkoseryl
Thank you very much for the urgent answers!

I've ordered just the STANDARD125 ;) + the spacebar, of course! ;)

farinasa_, thank you for the clue about 7bot, not 7bit!

Posted: 30 Nov 2013, 00:31
by farinasa_
solkoseryl wrote: farinasa_, thank you for the clue about 7bot, not 7bit!
Anytime. Let me also urge you to add the HONEY/FUNCTION/RED to really give yourself the Honeywell feeling with the red Escape, Backspace, and Return/Transmit. Not to mention the fun ones like "7 bit mode". :D

Posted: 30 Nov 2013, 00:58
by solkoseryl
farinasa_ wrote:Anytime. Let me also urge you to add the HONEY/FUNCTION/RED to really give yourself the Honeywell feeling with the red Escape, Backspace, and Return/Transmit. Not to mention the fun ones like "7 bit mode". :D
Yeah, I've added the red Esc key, just for fun ;)

LOL and the key '7 bit mode' has to be mapped on pm'ing to 7bit?

God, the last time I've typed the spherical keycaps was about 20 years ago. I can't believe it will happen again soon!

Re: Round 5 / Honey Sphericals (129.3%) 1 day to go!

Posted: 30 Nov 2013, 01:18
by jefferai
farinasa_ wrote:Anytime. Let me also urge you to add the HONEY/FUNCTION/RED to really give yourself the Honeywell feeling with the red Escape, Backspace, and Return/Transmit. Not to mention the fun ones like "7 bit mode". :D
But no "7 bot mode" to go with it :-(

Posted: 30 Nov 2013, 01:22
by quaker4lyf
7bit wrote:With the 2x3 spare keys you can replace the ERGO DOX keys by grey or red keys or have matching 1.5 units red keys instead of the greys, so they must be row 1.
So what do you think about the top thumb keys being row 2s instead of row 3s?

Re: Round 5 / Honey Sphericals (129.3%) 1 day to go!

Posted: 30 Nov 2013, 01:25
by jefferai
quaker4lyf wrote:
7bit wrote:With the 2x3 spare keys you can replace the ERGO DOX keys by grey or red keys or have matching 1.5 units red keys instead of the greys, so they must be row 1.
So what do you think about the top thumb keys being row 2s instead of row 3s?
Being very new to the ErgoDox...What's the advantage of this? Just a better curve profile?

Posted: 30 Nov 2013, 01:31
by tER299
Made my order (ergodox + wasd reds), but stuck in outbox, how long does it take the bot to respond?

Posted: 30 Nov 2013, 01:34
by Vierax
7bit wrote:
kzhk wrote:I will order a bepoalpha (tonight)... not sure it is going to be enough...
Everybody of you should order 2, one for the keyboard and one for the collection!
Since I have a weird layout which fits better with an all row3 set (sad for me that the alpha/red and numeric/red changes), mine is already for collection and pictures as the NOIR/BEPO set actually on transit :)
Thank you so much kzhk ! a 4th set should be enough.

Posted: 30 Nov 2013, 01:36
by quaker4lyf
jefferai wrote:
quaker4lyf wrote: So what do you think about the top thumb keys being row 2s instead of row 3s?
Being very new to the ErgoDox...What's the advantage of this? Just a better curve profile?
That's what I imagine. I've only tried typing on my friend's ErgoDox once, and his top thumb keys were a different row (though it was DCS, not these SA profile). Looking up pics of the Kinesis keyboard they seem to have the same thing (it's not all the same rows)
If HONEY/ERGOBASE is gunna have all row 3 thumb keys, then I'll probably order additional 4 row 1, and 4 row 2, blank grey keys, just so I can try it out and swap them out later if I need to.