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Good links jerue, thanks.

Two XTs in US.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-IBM-Keyboards ... 1595363627

Mint condition OmniKey Ultra-T, $175 BIN. Arguably THE ultimate Alps chassis.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-North ... SwnNBXYJbN

Why is the ultimate ALPS chassis not the ANSI 101 key version omnikey?

It's all subjective! I personally dislike Omnikeys entirely.

I think the Xerox is the same as the AT&T 6300 board-- yet another rebadged Olivetti M24-series PC-alike.

orihalcon wrote: Why is the ultimate ALPS chassis not the ANSI 101 key version omnikey?

ANSI isn't for everyone, I find it wasteful, impractical and ugly myself . The layout on the Ultra-T is really good!

Chyros wrote: Mint condition OmniKey Ultra-T, $175 BIN. Arguably THE ultimate Alps chassis.

Alps chassis? I've never tried any Northgate-OmniKey but I bet the rest is pretty nice also.

Chyros wrote:

orihalcon wrote: Why is the ultimate ALPS chassis not the ANSI 101 key version omnikey?

ANSI isn't for everyone, I find it wasteful, impractical and ugly myself . The layout on the Ultra-T is really good!

Isn't BAE the wasteful of them all though?

alh84001 wrote:

Chyros wrote:

orihalcon wrote: Why is the ultimate ALPS chassis not the ANSI 101 key version omnikey?

ANSI isn't for everyone, I find it wasteful, impractical and ugly myself . The layout on the Ultra-T is really good!

Isn't BAE the wasteful of them all though?

Not at all, it has the same amount of buttons as ANSI, and unlike ANSI you get a very useful enter key in return . I'd much rather have a proper enter key than a large \| key.

I see your point, but I don't need an Enter bigger then on ANSI. Big \| is unnecessary, I agree, but I guess I'm speaking from IBM perspective where when Backspace is remapped to |\ it's easy to add two single keys in the place of Backspace. Got to love IBM.

I guess my favorite Omnikey would be ANSI Ultra if it existed, so if I ever get one it will be hard to decide between 101 and Ultra. Maybe I'll have to get both

I really don't mind either layout, but tiny left shift on ISO bothers me so much that I tend to prefer ANSI just for that. I know where Ü,Ö and Ä are I don't need the printing to tell me.

That's why the best layout is the ANSI/ISO hybrid (US International) with ISO enter and big left shift.

HHKB is ANSI at its best. Large \ ? No. Easily reached Backspace instead!

And yes, 1.25u left Shift really bothers me. 2.75u is too large for a Shift key, but 1.25 is definitely too small.

HHKB is unix layout not ansi

I'm with Chyros... I love the Omnikey/Focus layout myself. The bigass enter is awesome and I like that it still has a full-sized backspace key (my #1 complaint with layouts like Chicony's). As I generally don't use the forward facing slash, having it shoved off to the bottom row doesn't bother me.

I actually grabbed that Ultra T, as well. It's not a bad price at all for a rare and almost mint condition Northgate, and to be honest I spent far more for my Ultra TP. At least this one will have genuine white Alps and not the simplified ones on my Ultra TP, plus it'd make a great chassis for my set of 84 blue Alps switches that I salvaged from a DC-2014.

all ebay BINs:
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yellowed Leading Edge DC-2014: http://www.ebay.com/itm/122016767605


IBM M4-1 that's a bit dirty, but should clean up nicely: http://www.ebay.com/itm//301986595195


fairly cheap QFR: http://www.ebay.com/itm/142025435779

I use the pipe | and the backslash \ all the time on Unix-like command lines, to either redirect output or escape characters respectively. I don't mind the HHKB layout so much as it's a minor adjustment, but the Omnikey arrangement is really quite frustrating for me.

Muirium wrote: HHKB is ANSI at its best. Large \ ? No. Easily reached Backspace instead!

And yes, 1.25u left Shift really bothers me. 2.75u is too large for a Shift key, but 1.25 is definitely too small.

Agree on the first point. Regarding Shift keys, I almost never use left Shift, but 1.25x is fine for either left Shift or Right shift. However, I have tried a 1.00x right Shift, and this was definitely too small. That extra 0.25x makes a big difference for me.

I also like the two 1.00x keys on the HHKB where the Backspace sits on many traditional keyboards -- one for Backslash/Pipe, the other for Backtick/Tilde. When I remap traditional keyboards to a HHKB-like layout, I usually assign Backspace to Backslash/Pipe in the default layer and Backtick/Tilde in the Fn layer -- not as convenient as the HHKB, which puts both of these in the default layer.

Apple M0116 (Salmon Alps) with mouse:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/201603816474?_t ... EBIDX%3AIT

Belgians, some OG dye-subs in winkeyless layout:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Cherr ... SwuhhXWvM1

It's from someone here.

PS/2 Tipro for a nice price WITH SERIAL Y-CABLE

This Y-Cable is hard to get and worth the 25€ alone!

https://www.ebay.de/itm/262486450795

What is that cable for? To connect multiple tipros together?

To programm a PS/2 Tipro without a native PS/2 port on your PC. You can use PS/2 Tipros through a ps2/usb adapter but you need a native ps/2 port to programm it. Only alternative is this Y-cable.

One of those weird screen reader model Ms that's built like an F with membranes: http://www.ebay.com/itm/282068350002?_t ... EBIDX%3AIT

I want it, and I've got the cat to prove it.

Ahh the Proto M , i have always wanted one to see what they feel like .

Its basically a model F with M fillers and a membrane in place of a PCB!

HELP our gogusrl out:

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Reuters-AK124-Ch ... SwbYZXXSrF

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Nixies @ GREEDBAY:

http://www.ebay.de/itm/SIEMENS-NIXDORF- ... SwQYZWuy1o

Olivetti ANK 27-102 N - a nice dome:

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Olivetti-Tastatu ... Swvg9XYuTH

Siemens PC-D / PC-X 186er:

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Siemens-PC-D-PC- ... SwuhhXXE~B

IBM dome spacesaver:

http://www.ebay.de/itm/IBM-Space-Saver- ... SwM4xXYYgu

IBM XT:

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Tastatur-fur-Com ... SwGIRXYAzJ

ICL "unsaver":

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Historische-neuw ... SwzJ5XXWB3

G81 - 3081 HBD NIB

http://www.ebay.de/itm/TASTATUR-CHERRY- ... SwFMZWs6h0

Cherry G81-3100 SFD / 02, Doubleshot Keys

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Cherry-G81-3100- ... SwR5dXSNBn

Topre Realforce 87U (SE08T0, 55g Switches) // 3 Topre PBT-Spacebars

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Topre-Realforce- ... SwjXRXYQcs

Topre Realforce 86U Tenkeyless Keyboard (White, Variable-Weighted)

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Topre-Realforce- ... SwjXRXXx8U

Topre Realforce 87UB Tenkeyless capacitive key Keyboard Black (US) Japan made

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Topre-Realforce- ... SwH6lXRSk7

Dat Siemens!

Malenky wrote: Belgians, some OG dye-subs in winkeyless layout:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Cherr ... SwuhhXWvM1

Oh shit, I won it.