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Posted: 30 Nov 2013, 11:58
by 7bit
Erhem!
:mad:

15*8/5==24 EUR
15*8/6==20 EUR

The 15 EUR price is based on the current price quote for 25,000 key caps. Bu now, we are at ~40,000 key caps, so the 15 EUR might turn into 12 EUR, so one IT kit will cost only 16 EUR when you take one.

Posted: 30 Nov 2013, 12:00
by matt3o
7bit wrote:Erhem!
:mad:

15*8/5==24 EUR
15*8/6==20 EUR

The 15 EUR price is based on the current price quote for 25,000 key caps. Bu now, we are at ~40,000 key caps, so the 15 EUR might turn into 12 EUR, so one IT kit will cost only 16 EUR when you take one.
okay so 8 is not the MOQ is just the tier. The kit will be ordered anyway. So why are you saying that it is endangered?

Posted: 30 Nov 2013, 12:05
by kfmfe04
matt3o wrote:
7bit wrote:Erhem!
:mad:

15*8/5==24 EUR
15*8/6==20 EUR

The 15 EUR price is based on the current price quote for 25,000 key caps. Bu now, we are at ~40,000 key caps, so the 15 EUR might turn into 12 EUR, so one IT kit will cost only 16 EUR when you take one.
okay so 8 is not the MOQ is just the tier. The kit will be ordered anyway. So why are you saying that it is endangered?
He is saying they are in danger of having their prices raised due to insufficient demand.

But it looks like there are two factors in the pricing - the number of that specific set bought and the total number of key caps. This seems to be quite fair to me.

Posted: 30 Nov 2013, 12:06
by matt3o
ooh okay. sorry, I'm slow.

Posted: 30 Nov 2013, 12:06
by 7bit
Yes, same for the BEPO, COLEMAK and DVORAK kit.

But: If the price gets up, people might jump off. Please notivce that these are a lot of keys and they are more expensive than the price of these kits shows!!!
:o

If someone wonders about only 2 DK and 2 NO kits: They are almost the same and share a lot of keys with DE and SE, so no problem here.

Posted: 30 Nov 2013, 12:23
by facetsesame
I don't believe this!
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It's not the "Home" legend, but it is a deep dish cursor key with legend...

As for this, I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
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This must have further wider appeal beyond the existing HONEY options (for one, this is exactly what solkoseryl was asking for yesterday), but you're not going to add any language options??

Posted: 30 Nov 2013, 12:36
by Halvar
More than 150% probably by the end of the day, that's awesome!
Round 5 wiki page wrote: Start: 2013-10-26
Deadline: 2013-11-30
Payment deadline: 2013-12-16
Shipping: from 2014-02-01 to 2014-03-30
What will be the next steps? Let's say you get a new pricing on monday and will adjust all prices accordingly during the week. Then everyone will order new stuff because prices are lower and because you keep adding options. Will the payment deadline still be 2013-12-16, so the order to SP goes out as planned? Is january a planned production slot offered by SP?

Posted: 30 Nov 2013, 12:55
by 7bit
I added the payment deadline today. I might move that. Payment deadline to me means not necessaryly that you can't order stuff afterwards, but after that deadline, I will clear old orders that had not been paid for.

As for SP's production slots, I don't have any idea at the moment. I will ask for that.

Posted: 30 Nov 2013, 13:05
by caligo
facetsesame wrote: As for this, I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
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This must have further wider appeal beyond the existing HONEY options (for one, this is exactly what solkoseryl was asking for yesterday), but you're not going to add any language options??
Cry, most definitely cry. ;) I'm fairly certain this has a wider appeal than the apparently not that popular red alphas. However, seeing as this was introduced so late in the GB it might sadly be quite hard to reach the MOQ for black language kits.

I for one would buy at least one set of black alphas if I could only get them in Swedish. I guess I could always buy 48 blank black keys, but it's not really the same – especially since there are no blank mods outside of the white/gray kits and no blank ISO Return keys in any color. :(

Posted: 30 Nov 2013, 13:33
by Vierax
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Too bad that my dance pad for Stepmania is way too large to use MX keys :)

Posted: 30 Nov 2013, 14:27
by DeskNDL82
wow. 145.8% :O

Posted: 30 Nov 2013, 15:19
by kvad
I've got HONEY/ALPHAINT/RED and HONEY/INTER/RED (on the endangered list) - if you decide to remove the later (or it becomes excessively expensive) will I be able to remove the first at that point?
One wouldn't be much use for me without the other.

Posted: 30 Nov 2013, 15:22
by Kalcifer
Payment sent.

Posted: 30 Nov 2013, 15:39
by Floating.Point
Just wondering why the equals key "=" is on R4 in all the numpad/numeric kits? Any chance of getting this on R1? That way it will fit better on Filco / Leopold keypads.
Spoiler:
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Posted: 30 Nov 2013, 15:53
by Muirium
I'd also like it on Row 1 for my number row replacement plan.

Posted: 30 Nov 2013, 15:55
by 7bit
I have it in row 4 on my Tipro. It is automatically also available in row 2 for free!

Nevertheless, I will add a row 1 version ...

Here you can see it on the future Hyper7:
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:ugeek:

Posted: 30 Nov 2013, 15:58
by facetsesame
caligo wrote:
facetsesame wrote: As for this, I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
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This must have further wider appeal beyond the existing HONEY options (for one, this is exactly what solkoseryl was asking for yesterday), but you're not going to add any language options??
Cry, most definitely cry. ;) I'm fairly certain this has a wider appeal than the apparently not that popular red alphas. However, seeing as this was introduced so late in the GB it might sadly be quite hard to reach the MOQ for black language kits.
Exactly, well put.
caligo wrote:I for one would buy at least one set of black alphas if I could only get them in Swedish. I guess I could always buy 48 blank black keys, but it's not really the same – especially since there are no blank mods outside of the white/gray kits and no blank ISO Return keys in any color. :(
Indeed, the blank option just isn't the same, and is frustrating when there is a "nearly" ALPHA kit. Blank ISO returns are a surprising omission, though at least the non-blank key would go with the base kits. For what it's worth, there is a blank blue ISO return available (still, I think) from the Round 4 SPH leftovers.

I would find funds to order one 102/5 UK set in black if the language kit was available, but I'm not in a position to buy multiple sets on top of my existing order to make it happen.

Is there anything that can be done for black language options?

Posted: 30 Nov 2013, 15:59
by facetsesame
7bit wrote:
HONEY_HYPER7.png
:ugeek:
:shock:
Is this the Tipro thing?

Posted: 30 Nov 2013, 16:02
by 7bit
No, it is the successor of my current Tipro setup.

Posted: 30 Nov 2013, 16:14
by facetsesame
7bit wrote:No, it is the successor of my current Tipro setup.
Right, I meant the keyboard. Does CALL dial a phone or summon an assistant?

Posted: 30 Nov 2013, 16:20
by webwit
It summons the BOT!

Posted: 30 Nov 2013, 17:08
by trueno
SO MANY CHOICES!!

Added another kit. Damn.

Posted: 30 Nov 2013, 17:12
by Muirium
That's a hell of a kit!
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Thanks for FUN. Now if only I could find single unit row 1 black ESC…

You're shooting hard for a lot more than 150% MOQ here, 7bit. Good luck!

Posted: 30 Nov 2013, 17:18
by DeskNDL82
wow. it's great successful.

I think you miss FJ package in black :))

Posted: 30 Nov 2013, 17:20
by facetsesame
I would definitely order a complete 102/105 black set if my language was available.

Posted: 30 Nov 2013, 17:21
by facetsesame
webwit wrote:It summons the BOT!
For what it's worth, did you see the legends in HONEY/FUNCTION2 ?

Posted: 30 Nov 2013, 17:22
by messiax
Hey 7bot. I sent PM.

Posted: 30 Nov 2013, 17:28
by metalliqaz
How is it that new kits are being added now? Isn't this supposed to be finished today?

Posted: 30 Nov 2013, 17:41
by Muirium
Because 7bit would like to get everyone moving, and that takes deadlines, but he wants us to hit a higher tier with this monster GB, and that takes being flexible!

I'd consider the payment deadline he added today to be the real one.

Posted: 30 Nov 2013, 17:43
by jefferai
@7bit Earlier you said that all ErgoDox thumb keys were R3, but this: http://deskthority.net/wiki/File:HONEY_ERGO_sample.png shows four of them as being R2. Was your earlier statement correct, or is that diagram correct?

Also, putting in a vote that I would seriously considered black alphas. I'd also seriously consider grey alphas.

Edit: I see the black ones. Still think grey would be nice :-)