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Posted: 18 Aug 2016, 20:17
by XMIT
Chyros wrote: Interesting, the keycaps look extremely Key Tronic to me, do we know if they had a hand in these?
Yes, it's likely there was a common key cap manufacturer at some point. If you click through above to the photos of the NCR K430 board the original caps similarly had this Key Tronic type face.
Now of course the board has Cherry OG double shots

except for the space bar.

Posted: 18 Aug 2016, 23:07
by Chyros
E TwentyNine wrote:
Oh ffs, that's an outstanding deal. Whoever got it, congratulations. I hate you.
Indeed, the 5155 was the first computer I ever owned, might have to get one myself one day ^^ .
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 19 Aug 2016, 00:52
by Techno Trousers
It would be a fun project to put a modern gaming PC into that case and a Soarer's converter for the keyboard.
Posted: 19 Aug 2016, 01:01
by dokyun
Posted: 19 Aug 2016, 02:59
by alh84001
If someone's in Ottawa, a nice-looking F XT which *might* be had for cheap
http://ottawa.craigslist.ca/sop/5737084865.html
Posted: 19 Aug 2016, 03:17
by Chyros
Posted: 19 Aug 2016, 03:52
by Chyros
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pioneer-MSX-P ... Sw9NdXtiIG
Grey-on-black and grey-ish-blue-on-black Alps doubleshot ABS keycaps and Alps integrated dome switches. The plug is weird though, so it might take a bit to get working.
Posted: 19 Aug 2016, 05:20
by alienman82
removed.
Posted: 19 Aug 2016, 08:22
by kbdfr
A pity those are lasered caps, but well…
http://www.ebay.de/itm/152210157113
Posted: 19 Aug 2016, 11:46
by Chyros
People pay €60 for a G81-3000?! Oo
Posted: 19 Aug 2016, 12:30
by ramnes
I'll pay way more than that for some kinds of G81-3000, Chyros.

Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 19 Aug 2016, 13:35
by Phenix
I paid around 65€+shipping for an g81-3000. But SAD

Posted: 19 Aug 2016, 13:41
by kbdfr
I thought someone might be interested in (or at least curious about) the cyrillic characters.
Posted: 19 Aug 2016, 13:52
by Wodan
I think it's cool. But the off-center bottom row turns me ... off

Posted: 19 Aug 2016, 14:24
by Chyros
ramnes wrote: I'll pay way more than that for some kinds of G81-3000, Chyros.

Haha, yeah, I konw how much you like G81-3000s :p . Surely not for the switches or for lasered keycaps, though? xD
Posted: 19 Aug 2016, 15:19
by hypkx
Posted: 19 Aug 2016, 15:24
by fohat
Greenock was using ABS space bars as early as 1991?
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 19 Aug 2016, 15:32
by Techno Trousers
I don't think those are standard colors. Maybe someone dyed the function keys and space bar?
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 19 Aug 2016, 15:44
by Touch_It
Techno Trousers wrote:I don't think those are standard colors. Maybe someone dyed the function keys and space bar?
That was my first thought.
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Posted: 19 Aug 2016, 18:19
by Chyros
fohat wrote:
Greenock was using ABS space bars as early as 1991?
Yes, I think I might have had ones older than that with ABS space bars, even. My '87 one doesn't, though, but that's quite an interesting beast by itself (it's a grey-badge model but it still had the rainbow plate, for example).
Posted: 19 Aug 2016, 20:41
by fohat
Chyros wrote:
(it's a grey-badge model but it still had the rainbow plate, for example).
All 1391401s (and equivalent models and terminals, and later models) have oval labels on the left, and were made as early as 1986.
Only the 1390120 and 1390131 (and equivalent models and terminals) have square badge on the right and were made as late as 1988.
Odds of getting the shiny yellow plate in 1987 were still pretty good.
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 19 Aug 2016, 21:23
by pcaro
Very interesting for a spanair like me
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Posted: 19 Aug 2016, 23:46
by Darkshado
fohat wrote: Greenock was using ABS space bars as early as 1991?
As a data point: my December 1990 1391402 has a PBT spacebar.
Posted: 20 Aug 2016, 01:17
by mecano
This one catched my eye, not sure what to find inside but Measurex being then bought by Honeywell, I guess it can't be that bad, what do you think?
Posted: 20 Aug 2016, 01:19
by snuci
mecano wrote: This one catched my eye, not sure what to find inside but Measurex being then bought by Honeywell, I guess it can't be that bad, what do you think?
It has Key Tronic foam and foil switches judging by the rear stickers.
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 20 Aug 2016, 01:27
by Techno Trousers
mecano wrote:This one catched my eye, not sure what to find inside but Measurex being then bought by Honeywell, I guess it can't be that bad, what do you think?
That extreme stepped enter key made me laugh. "You WILL press this giant key exactly where I want you to." --layout designer
Posted: 20 Aug 2016, 01:28
by ohaimark
mecano wrote: This one catched my eye, not sure what to find inside but Measurex being then bought by Honeywell, I guess it can't be that bad, what do you think?
Techno Trousers just beat me to the punch, but I'll post anyways.
Definitely foam and foil. Also, that 1u stepped big-ass enter made me laugh.
Like, seriously. How much space can one waste?
Posted: 20 Aug 2016, 02:43
by Chyros
Yeah, should be foam and foil. By the way, I did find a rubber dome Key Tronic board that had an FT sticker on it, so that's not ALWAYS valid, it would seem.
Posted: 20 Aug 2016, 03:57
by E TwentyNine
Chyros wrote: fohat wrote:
Greenock was using ABS space bars as early as 1991?
Yes, I think I might have had ones older than that with ABS space bars, even. My '87 one doesn't, though, but that's quite an interesting beast by itself (it's a grey-badge model but it still had the rainbow plate, for example).
I thought they had different suppliers and the material used in the spacebar could vary over the years.
Posted: 20 Aug 2016, 11:39
by mecano
snuci wrote:
It has Key Tronic foam and foil switches judging by the rear stickers.
What is the difference between foam and foil and topre like capacitive switches? I have a commodore AT/XT keyboard with capacitive single spring+rubber dome on each key, does it feel/work the same?
Techno Trousers wrote:
That extreme stepped enter key made me laugh. "You WILL press this giant key exactly where I want you to." --layout designer
That is what happen when the key designer says 1U and the layout designer says donuts.
Did you see the leds? Looks like it has 4 layers!
Chyros wrote: Yeah, should be foam and foil. By the way, I did find a rubber dome Key Tronic board that had an FT sticker on it, so that's not ALWAYS valid, it would seem.
I had a Key Tronic rubber dome that had an incredible feel not mushy at all, being used in the administration for years surely helped it get that touch, gave it away to a school that needed some keyboards along with a Dell quietkey, will ask the teacher about bottom stickers.