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Posted: 02 Dec 2013, 01:55
by lakmeer
Are there any other people interested in single-label numerals? ie: Like the HONEY/NUMERIC/WHITE but with R1 numerals instead of symbols, to match the single-label alphas? I'd totally order that but I might be alone...
It would include:
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R1: ` ~ 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 - + =
and optionally some non-row1 symbols to match the single-label aesthetic:
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R2: [ ]
R2(1.5u): \
R3: : "
R4: < > ?
But just R1 0-9 would do me... any interest?
Posted: 02 Dec 2013, 02:19
by Muirium
Very tempting, in fact…
Re: Round 5 / Honey Sphericals (170.4%) -1 day to go!
Posted: 02 Dec 2013, 03:06
by fifted
lakmeer wrote:Are there any other people interested in single-label numerals?
I like the marks for this, but I see your point; they would look snappy.
Posted: 02 Dec 2013, 03:24
by farinasa_
lakmeer wrote:Are there any other people interested in single-label numerals? ie: Like the HONEY/NUMERIC/WHITE but with R1 numerals instead of symbols, to match the single-label alphas? I'd totally order that but I might be alone...
It would include:
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R1: ` ~ 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 - + =
and optionally some non-row1 symbols to match the single-label aesthetic:
Code: Select all
R2: [ ]
R2(1.5u): \
R3: : "
R4: < > ?
But just R1 0-9 would do me... any interest?
Yes I would totally be in. I especially agree with your second point about the quotes and braces. I had ergodox in mind with the other symbols and didn't think to ask about those until later.
Edit: Except I think the R2 keys should be shifted because the rest are all shifted symbols.
Posted: 02 Dec 2013, 05:25
by blueSmoke
How many times the 'bot' crawls our messages?
Seems like it aint liking mine after a updated order.
Posted: 02 Dec 2013, 06:18
by farinasa_
Posted: 02 Dec 2013, 06:45
by lakmeer
@farinasa_, I think you have interpreted my post wrong - I'm proposing using single numerals, not the shifted symbols.
Like this:

- poker_dsa_single_numeral_legends.jpg (52.58 KiB) Viewed 4871 times
As for the layout you posted above, you should be able to create it already with HONEY/NUMERIC, if that's what you're after

Posted: 02 Dec 2013, 07:09
by farinasa_
lakmeer wrote:@farinasa_, I think you have interpreted my post wrong - I'm proposing using single numerals, not the shifted symbols.
No I understood, and still agree they would be awesome. I was referring to R2 - [ ] \(1.5u) saying they should be R2 - { } |(1.5u) because all the other symbols are also their shifted versions: < > ? :
Of course R3 - " would still be required.
Edit: Here I'll add for perspective

Posted: 02 Dec 2013, 07:31
by quaker4lyf
I'm really torn.. I really want my modifier keys to not be blank (cuz I feel what's the point of doubleshots if it's showing only one color)

- expensive version
- Screenshot 2013-12-01 at 22.06.55.png (121.36 KiB) Viewed 5204 times
Making this happen would take
FUNCTION/RED just for transmit and clear/reset key... $22
MODEXTRA150 mainly for R3 return key... $24
MOD150 for R2 tab, R2 backspace, R3 control $14 (could be eliminated if those keys were put in MODEXTRA150)
SHIFT150/R4 $4
MOD100 $7
MODEXTRA100 $16
BLANK/R3U200/GREY thumb keys $16
CURSORBASE $9
and finally ALPHA $32 for a total of $144

- budget version
- Screenshot 2013-12-01 at 22.20.28.png (106.95 KiB) Viewed 5204 times
The budget version is just ERGOBASE $29 + ALPHA $32 + CURSOR/R3/BLACK $8 + two red R1s $6 = $75
What do you guys think, does the non-blank mod keys layout even look that good?
@7bit: Is there anyway to make it easier to get the 1.5u keys? maybe like an ERGOMOD kit? How bout the red transmit and clear/reset keys?
Anyway I'll sleep on it, the non-blank mod keys layout... maybe it'll stop looking good to me....

Posted: 02 Dec 2013, 08:29
by matt3o
Since to burn hasu's firmware without accessing the physical button we need a dedicated key (not in the FN layer)... I believe it would be great to have a FIRMWARE key
So I hereby nominee HONEY/FIRMWARE for inclusion (1U from R1 to R3)
Posted: 02 Dec 2013, 09:18
by jpatters
Yslen wrote:As regards the layout editor, it saves you some time these are the colours I've used, as HTML codes;
White - fafafa
Black - 2e2e2e
Grey - 81818b
Red - e60000
Blue - 338cd7
They're probably not perfect but reasonably close I think.
On the toolbar you can pick a color palette with the Signature Plastics ABS colors.
White: WFK
Black: NN
Grey: GPA
Red: RAS
Blue: BFP
Not sure how well matched they are, though, and I think NN is missing from the palette.
Posted: 02 Dec 2013, 09:45
by Belfong
Oh my goodness. I just received the Round 4 SPH keys in my hand, in real person (thanks, MJ45!) and they are beautiful! So beautiful that I decided to add my orders! I hope the price will go down further!
Re: Round 5 / Honey Sphericals (170.4%) -1 day to go!
Posted: 02 Dec 2013, 09:51
by pasph
What about a HONEY/TKLISOBASE/WHITE ?
Posted: 02 Dec 2013, 10:01
by Belfong
noooo... I have to pay additional $80+ ...
7bit, you gotta extend the 5% discount to the new total, not the total as of the anniversary!

Posted: 02 Dec 2013, 10:20
by lakmeer
farinasa_ wrote:
No I understood, and still agree they would be awesome. I was referring to R2 - [ ] \(1.5u) saying they should be R2 - { } |(1.5u) because all the other symbols are also their shifted versions: < > ? :
Ah I see, you are quite right

Posted: 02 Dec 2013, 10:47
by 7bit
HONEY/NUMROW now available in all 4 colors.
I've moved some keys from the NUMERIC kits to NUMROW, because they fit there better.
Posted: 02 Dec 2013, 11:05
by 7bit
From today on,
jefferai will take over from megnin to collect your PayPal money.

Posted: 02 Dec 2013, 11:17
by jpatters
How about HYPER and GREEK in HONEY/FUNCTION/R4?
Posted: 02 Dec 2013, 11:28
by kenmai9
7bit wrote:From today on,
jefferai will take over from megnin to collect your PayPal money.

Am I still marked as paid?
Posted: 02 Dec 2013, 11:32
by padath
You mentioned a few days ago 7bit that you might split the cursor packs into separate arrows and text kits. Have you decided whether you're going to do the split?
Posted: 02 Dec 2013, 11:42
by melee27a
quaker4lyf wrote:I'm really torn.. I really want my modifier keys to not be blank (cuz I feel what's the point of doubleshots if it's showing only one color)
Screenshot 2013-12-01 at 22.06.55.png
Making this happen would take
FUNCTION/RED just for transmit and clear/reset key... $22
MODEXTRA150 mainly for R3 return key... $24
MOD150 for R2 tab, R2 backspace, R3 control $14 (could be eliminated if those keys were put in MODEXTRA150)
SHIFT150/R4 $4
MOD100 $7
MODEXTRA100 $16
BLANK/R3U200/GREY thumb keys $16
CURSORBASE $9
and finally ALPHA $32 for a total of $144
Screenshot 2013-12-01 at 22.20.28.png
The budget version is just ERGOBASE $29 + ALPHA $32 + CURSOR/R3/BLACK $8 + two red R1s $6 = $75
What do you guys think, does the non-blank mod keys layout even look that good?
@7bit: Is there anyway to make it easier to get the 1.5u keys? maybe like an ERGOMOD kit? How bout the red transmit and clear/reset keys?
Anyway I'll sleep on it, the non-blank mod keys layout... maybe it'll stop looking good to me....

I'm having the same problem, except I also am getting the Dvorak, which is another $30....
Since the Ergodox will be new for me, I decided to get the blank modifiers (black). That way I won't be afraid to experiment around with the layout, and if I really want labels later, I'll get them during some other GB (lots of colors match with black/white).
Posted: 02 Dec 2013, 12:21
by Kalcifer
7bit, I've made payment yesterday to Megnin already but I've received another email to pay again. Please update.
Posted: 02 Dec 2013, 12:23
by Yslen
Kalcifer wrote:7bit, I've made payment yesterday to Megnin already but I've received another email to pay again. Please update.
I'm in the same boat, I'm sure it will get updated shortly.
Posted: 02 Dec 2013, 12:44
by Yslen
jpatters wrote:Yslen wrote:As regards the layout editor, it saves you some time these are the colours I've used, as HTML codes;
White - fafafa
Black - 2e2e2e
Grey - 81818b
Red - e60000
Blue - 338cd7
They're probably not perfect but reasonably close I think.
On the toolbar you can pick a color palette with the Signature Plastics ABS colors.
White: WFK
Black: NN
Grey: GPA
Red: RAS
Blue: BFP
Not sure how well matched they are, though, and I think NN is missing from the palette.
Thanks, not sure how I missed that! They're very different to what I was using, and probably much more accurate. I've just taken some colours from the SP's own photos of their colour samples and they're very close to the colours the layout editor provides.
To save people mousing over every single colour to find the one they want, here are the SP colour codes in HTML so you can just type them in;
White (WFK): #e5e4df
Grey (GPA): #5d6060
Red (RAS): #950013
Blue (BFP): #0073a2
Black (NN): #1e1f1d
The black is my best guess by taking an average from the SP sample photo, seems a lot closer than the black I was using.
Posted: 02 Dec 2013, 13:23
by 7bit
SHI T, the spam I sent out was without the price list.
Now I need to send the spam again ...
BTW:
7bot wrote:
If your payment does not show up here, it is because
the list has not yet been updated, but it soon will be.

Posted: 02 Dec 2013, 13:56
by kzhk
lakmeer wrote:Are there any other people interested in single-label numerals? ie: Like the HONEY/NUMERIC/WHITE but with R1 numerals instead of symbols, to match the single-label alphas? I'd totally order that but I might be alone...
It would include:
Code: Select all
R1: ` ~ 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 - + =
any interest?
YES ! I would take one.
Posted: 02 Dec 2013, 14:25
by tER299
Is it possible to change the grey keys in HONEY/ERGO to black ones?? Also, is it possible to have a row 2 up cursor and row 3 left, right and down cursors (in black)??
Posted: 02 Dec 2013, 14:26
by Yslen
7bit, I've just done a massive overhaul on my order (don't worry ended up spending more) and find myself in need of a HONEY/TILDEBPRIME/RED. What do you say?
Also, any chance of red caps lock being added to HONEY/FUNCTION/RED?
I know I know, I'm pushing my luck
EDIT: Ignore the caps lock request, I'm just going to swap to HONEY/TKL/BASE/RED as it's the same price as all the little bits I have. Would still like the HONEY/TILDEBPRIME/RED though!

Posted: 02 Dec 2013, 14:46
by 7bit
tER299 wrote:Is it possible to change the grey keys in HONEY/ERGO to black ones?? Also, is it possible to have a row 2 up cursor and row 3 left, right and down cursors (in black)??
You can add any blank key caps you want.
http://deskthority.net/wiki/R5#Blank_kits
kzhk wrote:lakmeer wrote:....
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R1: ` ~ 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 - + =
any interest?
YES ! I would take one.
You can actually order them:
http://deskthority.net/wiki/R5#Numeric_kits

Available in 4 colors!
Posted: 02 Dec 2013, 14:48
by matt3o
matt3o wrote:Since to burn hasu's firmware without accessing the physical button we need a dedicated key (not in the FN layer)... I believe it would be great to have a FIRMWARE key
So I hereby nominee HONEY/FIRMWARE for inclusion (1U from R1 to R3)
nobody?!
