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Posted: 12 Mar 2017, 22:42
by Hypersphere
Menuhin wrote: Interesting name and interesting layout:
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Even when it is a rubber-dome. :P
I wonder if anyone tries to hit the Return key on its thin ascending portion between the right brace and delete? It's like watching a snapshot of evolution -- that appendix is becoming vestigial!

Speaking of Apollo computers, it would have been quite fun to have seen an auction for a DSKY keyboard from the Apollo Guidance Computer used in the lunar missions:
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Gu ... e:Dsky.jpg

Posted: 12 Mar 2017, 23:08
by Menuhin
The Apollo keyboard has this "small-ass Enter" key, plus the geeky F0 key (starting from F0 instead of F1), and the REPL key and Pop key.
But as an Apollo keyboard, it lacks the very important "Launch" key - not built for the real rockets.

Posted: 12 Mar 2017, 23:11
by seebart
Hypersphere wrote: I wonder if anyone tries to hit the Return key on its thin ascending portion between the right brace and delete? It's like watching a snapshot of evolution -- that appendix is becoming vestigial!
Yes that return key is quite unusual, reminds me a bit of my Zenith ZKB-2 but this one is stranger with the surrounding keys.

wiki/Zenith_ZKB-2

Posted: 12 Mar 2017, 23:48
by Hypersphere
Yes, the Zenith design makes much more sense than the "slim-ass" Enter on the Apollo.

Posted: 13 Mar 2017, 00:14
by Chyros
Hypersphere wrote:
Chyros wrote: They're very nice boards, the best type of AT101s. I've had bad luck with them; one was completely broken, and the one I have now has scratchy switches :/ .
YOU have an Alps-switch board that has scratchy switches?!

Now I don't feel so bad. I had thought that all your Alps-switch boards were in perfect condition and that my house was where all the dilapidated Alps boards went to die, sort of like the Elephants' graveyard. ;)

Seriously, though, when you say "the best of AT101a" are you referring just to the Dell Old Logo AT-101s? Within that group, I see that the DT wiki lists two variants:

FCC ID GYI3PVAT101.
Made in USA by Alps. Alps SKCM Salmon switches. Keycaps are printed in a slightly blue ink.

FCC ID GYIAT101-102
Made in USA or Ireland. Alps SKCM Salmon switches.

Between these two, do you favor the one with the "slightly blue ink"?
I've had TONS of Alps keyboards with scratchy switches xD . Way more than good ones. But the good ones are the onlly ones worth telling about, so that's the only ones you hear of :p .

I don't have the PVAT101, it's the only model of Dell AT101 I don't own. But apart from the blue ink it's basically the same, apparently. I so wish my salmon Dell would have nice-condition switches xD .

It's cool to see the evolution of the series, though, they changed so much over time. They even changed the printing method of the old-style Dell logo between models xD .

Posted: 13 Mar 2017, 03:05
by Tuntematon
A pretty penny for a neat board. Into the b***a vault it goes!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/351998135195?_t ... EBIDX%3AIT

Re: Great/Interesting Finds

Posted: 13 Mar 2017, 03:11
by mike52787
Tuntematon wrote:A pretty penny for a neat board. Into the b***a vault it goes!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/351998135195?_t ... EBIDX%3AIT
I though this would go super low, my snipe was set at 35$ :0

Posted: 13 Mar 2017, 04:25
by //gainsborough

Posted: 13 Mar 2017, 04:43
by gnmar2723
//gainsborough wrote: That Lexmark went for $925 o.O

http://www.ebay.com/itm/252799966618?_t ... EBIDX%3AIT
ELI5 - Why it was worth so much?

Posted: 13 Mar 2017, 04:55
by ohaimark
CALLED IT. It was basically NIB with all of the documentation. That really brings the big wallets out to play. :rolls:

Posted: 13 Mar 2017, 04:57
by ohaimark
Only $300 for the associated numpad. :P

http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Lexmark-Key ... 2394801368

Re: Great/Interesting Finds

Posted: 13 Mar 2017, 05:19
by Techno Trousers
Oh boy. The keyboard buyer will probably want to get that numpad at almost any cost to complete the set.

ELI5 on the value of the M15: it was only produced for a very short time during the ergonomic keyboard craze of the '90s. It was prone to breaking in the tilt mechanism, and was quickly discontinued. So to find one in good working condition is very rare, and a New In Box (NIB) example is extremely rare.

Posted: 13 Mar 2017, 14:48
by Harshmallow
ohaimark wrote: Only $300 for the associated numpad. :P

http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Lexmark-Key ... 2394801368
Yeah that wasn't timed by Tuntematon at all :P Nice numpad dude!

Posted: 13 Mar 2017, 16:57
by ohaimark
I wish I had the cash to pick it up for my Lexmark CCP-15. Oh well.

Posted: 13 Mar 2017, 17:20
by y11971alex
That 5110 (not 5150) is still on eBay for $510! It has a built-in beam spring keyboard.

Posted: 13 Mar 2017, 18:33
by //gainsborough
taylor instruments keyboard

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Taylor-Instrume ... SwWxNYrziv

2 of this model were posted, and then there's a third model with a normal alpha block. Interesting AND expensive!

Posted: 13 Mar 2017, 21:07
by Tuntematon
Harshmallow wrote:
ohaimark wrote: Only $300 for the associated numpad. :P

http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Lexmark-Key ... 2394801368
Yeah that wasn't timed by Tuntematon at all :P Nice numpad dude!
What do you think guys, did I let it go cheap? I figured 1/3 of keyboard price seemed about right. Timed for sure, but the auction winner wasn't the one who bought it after all.

Posted: 13 Mar 2017, 22:53
by Lynx_Carpathica
Hi
I have the opportunity to get a Model F XT for around 25€. But the guy can't get it to work - controller failure. Is it possible to repair, or swap the thing out for a capsense usb controller?

Posted: 13 Mar 2017, 23:10
by rsbseb

Posted: 13 Mar 2017, 23:43
by //gainsborough
Another M15! This one isn't lexmark branded, but it's significantly cheaper than the one that just sold.

https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/com ... ts_more_w/

Posted: 14 Mar 2017, 00:00
by Ratfink
Lynx_Carpathica wrote: Hi
I have the opportunity to get a Model F XT for around 25€. But the guy can't get it to work - controller failure. Is it possible to repair, or swap the thing out for a capsense usb controller?
Possible. The XT keyboard has the controller and capsense pads one one PCB. If I remember right, the traces connecting the two parts each go through two rows of holes so that you could cut the pieces apart and solder them together with wires pretty easily. It should certainly be possible to put some kind of modern capsense controller on there after sawing off the old controller.

Of course, it might be that he's trying to plug it into a PS/2 port with an AT->PS/2 adapter, which would make it look like the keyboard doesn't work when it still in fact does. How certain are you that he tested it properly?

Posted: 14 Mar 2017, 00:29
by Tuntematon
What is this nonsense? :shock: Dell AT-101, auction is ended. Rarer model, outrageous price:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-BEIGE-D ... 7675.l2557

Posted: 14 Mar 2017, 00:55
by OPIV
Lol whatt, that is crazy, the caps even got some shine on them. Id be very surprised if the winning bidder actually paid. The strange part is even the second and third highest bidders put in really high bids also.

Posted: 14 Mar 2017, 01:08
by //gainsborough
Tuntematon wrote: What is this nonsense? :shock: Dell AT-101, auction is ended. Rarer model, outrageous price:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-BEIGE-D ... 7675.l2557

....the f**k?!

Posted: 14 Mar 2017, 01:21
by cumwagondeluxe
5161 from earlier went for $275 to some dude with 0 feedback. Gonna go ahead and call it now - he's not going to pay, it'll get relisted and go for a more reasonable price some time next week or the week after just like the K9AX from earlier :^)

Posted: 14 Mar 2017, 05:03
by alh84001
Lynx_Carpathica wrote: Hi
I have the opportunity to get a Model F XT for around 25€. But the guy can't get it to work - controller failure. Is it possible to repair, or swap the thing out for a capsense usb controller?
The springs+flippers alone make it worth it.

Menuhin wrote: and the REPL key
I need this!

Posted: 14 Mar 2017, 05:20
by Harshmallow
OPIV wrote: Lol whatt, that is crazy, the caps even got some shine on them. Id be very surprised if the winning bidder actually paid. The strange part is even the second and third highest bidders put in really high bids also.
It got sniped by b****a...I doubt he'll be a non-paying winner, however from what I hear, he'll probably take 4-5 days to actually pay. The other guy that had his bid maxed out at $333 probably thought he was setting a ridiculously high sum in order to guarantee himself a win without having to stick around and bid competitively. Probably wasn't expecting someone like b****a to swoop in and scrooge mcduck the whole thing up.

Posted: 14 Mar 2017, 08:23
by seebart
//gainsborough wrote:
Tuntematon wrote: What is this nonsense? :shock: Dell AT-101, auction is ended. Rarer model, outrageous price:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-BEIGE-D ... 7675.l2557

....the f**k?!
Seems that old Dell AT's are the next [insert blue Alps here] $$$ hype. :lol: Remmber: it's just like with any Alps SKCM, they might be really worn and feel like shit which is non-fixable.

alh84001 wrote: The springs+flippers alone make it worth it.
That's right. And it is very fixable since many spare parts exist.

Posted: 14 Mar 2017, 13:18
by armatus
Zbrojovka Brno model 262.3

found this CSSR beauty by decent price (w/o shipping it's only 30euro)

https://pc.bazos.sk/inzerat/70699069/st ... l-2623.php

- Hall effect switches
- linear
- good condition

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Posted: 14 Mar 2017, 15:32
by seebart
armatus wrote: Zbrojovka Brno model 262.3

found this CSSR beauty by decent price (w/o shipping it's only 30euro)

https://pc.bazos.sk/inzerat/70699069/st ... l-2623.php

- Hall effect switches
- linear
- good condition
That's real nice armatus, Tesla tripple Hall Effect if I remember correctly. I am tempted. :roll: