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Posted: 30 Mar 2017, 18:34
by hypkx
OR
1. Get some alps keyboard
2. make some lines with a sharpie on the switches
3. claim its a ultra rare new discovered switch (no insult

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4. profit

Posted: 30 Mar 2017, 20:00
by seebart
Posted: 30 Mar 2017, 20:07
by //gainsborough
Posted: 30 Mar 2017, 20:47
by Harshmallow
If anyone is interested in it for the possibility of blue alps - don't expect to find them in this. I have an even lower serial number, older model that still comes with White Alps. As far as I can tell, the board needs to have the AT/XT switch on the narrow top panel of the keyboard AND an extra sticker under the bottom right foot with dip switches to switch Caps Lock and Ctrl being under that flip-out foot - essentially a second dip switch block. And the blue alps models likely also don't have a serial number on their label at all, like Seebart's FK-2002 in the wiki.
The seller also adds this description to their listing:
Focus FK-2001 is a family of Alps SKCL/SKCM series and Alps clone keyboards from Focus Electronic for IBM PCs and compatibles. The original FK-2001 keyboard was XT/AT switchable, and used Alps SKCM Blue switches.
Note, they don't state that THEIR board comes with those switches, they don't actually indicate which switches their board has at all, nor do they show a picture.
*It does look like a very clean board however, and a great example of the FK-2001

Posted: 30 Mar 2017, 20:56
by IKSLM
Harshmallow wrote:
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Note, they don't state that THEIR board comes with those switches, they don't actually indicate which switches their board has at all, nor do they show a picture.
*It does look like a very clean board however, and a great example of the FK-2001

Well the third picture clearly shows white alps.
Posted: 30 Mar 2017, 21:01
by Harshmallow
IKSLM wrote: Harshmallow wrote:
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Note, they don't state that THEIR board comes with those switches, they don't actually indicate which switches their board has at all, nor do they show a picture.
*It does look like a very clean board however, and a great example of the FK-2001

Well the third picture clearly shows white alps.
Hahah, I swear there were only 5 photos when I commented. Now I look crazy.
Posted: 30 Mar 2017, 21:11
by //gainsborough
I had a fun chat with the seller =) Asked them to pull a cap and take a pic!
Posted: 30 Mar 2017, 21:28
by Chyros
Harshmallow wrote:
If anyone is interested in it for the possibility of blue alps - don't expect to find them in this. I have an even lower serial number, older model that still comes with White Alps. As far as I can tell, the board needs to have the AT/XT switch on the narrow top panel of the keyboard AND an extra sticker under the bottom right foot with dip switches to switch Caps Lock and Ctrl being under that flip-out foot - essentially a second dip switch block. And the blue alps models likely also don't have a serial number on their label at all, like Seebart's FK-2002 in the wiki.
The seller also adds this description to their listing:
Focus FK-2001 is a family of Alps SKCL/SKCM series and Alps clone keyboards from Focus Electronic for IBM PCs and compatibles. The original FK-2001 keyboard was XT/AT switchable, and used Alps SKCM Blue switches.
Note, they don't state that THEIR board comes with those switches, they don't actually indicate which switches their board has at all, nor do they show a picture.
*It does look like a very clean board however, and a great example of the FK-2001

Pine white Alps, nice. And the board looks absolutely spotless. This is what I'd recommend to someone who would want to try out a proper Alps experience

.
See, that detachable dust cover might seem strange and useless, but you'll find that because of it, 2001s tend to turn up cleaner on average than other boards

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Posted: 30 Mar 2017, 21:43
by Lynx_Carpathica
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Translucent-Dou ... Sw8w1X~dmY
As far as I can remember, PBT is Extremely hard to dubleshoot isn't it?
Something's wrong about that price...
Posted: 30 Mar 2017, 22:12
by Hypersphere
Chyros wrote: Yes, I'd say green as well. Again, if someone gets it, let me know if I was right or wrong, please.
<snip>
I got this one. Just now unpacked it and set it up. Typing on it now, complete with the built-in "chirp" (which toggles with Alt-Backtick). Yes, SKCL green Alps. Doubleshot ABS caps. The board is in great shape. The keycaps are yellowed, but the case is practically white -- unusual for old Zenith boards.
My previous Zenith purchase was a Z-150 that arrived with the case and some keys smashed and in pieces -- the only part salvageable from the top case was the black label badge, which I intend to put on the ZB-2. The innards and the metal bottom are okay, so now I am looking for a top case, preferably with the black label intact.
Posted: 30 Mar 2017, 22:37
by //gainsborough
Hypersphere wrote: Chyros wrote: Yes, I'd say green as well. Again, if someone gets it, let me know if I was right or wrong, please.
<snip>
I got this one. Just now unpacked it and set it up. Typing on it now, complete with the built-in "chirp" (which toggles with Alt-Backtick). Yes, SKCL green Alps. Doubleshot ABS caps. The board is in great shape. The keycaps are yellowed, but the case is practically white -- unusual for old Zenith boards.
My previous Zenith purchase was a Z-150 that arrived with the case and some keys smashed and in pieces -- the only part salvageable from the top case was the black label badge, which I intend to put on the ZB-2. The innards and the metal bottom are okay, so now I am looking for a top case, preferably with the black label intact.
Nice! The only green alps board I have is a z-150 that I bought from luigi - but I still can't get it to work =( It makes me sad because I love typing on it.
Posted: 30 Mar 2017, 22:46
by Tuntematon
Who got the Focus FK-727? I was hoping to wait it out for a little while and make an offer later. Need to get one of these for my Focus collection. One day!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/282409775691?_t ... EBIDX%3AIT
Posted: 30 Mar 2017, 22:53
by Slom
Posted: 30 Mar 2017, 23:08
by //gainsborough
>_< .... I need to stop spending money. I offered $175 and the seller accepted.
Posted: 30 Mar 2017, 23:08
by Hypersphere
Posted: 30 Mar 2017, 23:10
by //gainsborough
That's the board I have, but with the normal black zenith badge. The problem is that one would also be a weird XT protocol, right?
fujitsu leaf spring, maybe? Not sure, but it looks neat!
edit: now I'm almost positive that it is fujitsu leaf spring
Posted: 30 Mar 2017, 23:18
by Tuntematon
//gainsborough wrote:
>_< .... I need to stop spending money. I offered $175 and the seller accepted.
I was thinking of making an offer in that range too. Just bought a couple high end Alps boards, both pretty costly. Couldn't do it! The 727 looks pretty decent, those switches might actually feel okay. If not, at least you've got a nice minty cable

Posted: 30 Mar 2017, 23:43
by //gainsborough
Tuntematon wrote:
I was thinking of making an offer in that range too. Just bought a couple high end Alps boards, both pretty costly. Couldn't do it! The 727 looks pretty decent, those switches might actually feel okay. If not, at least you've got a nice minty cable

As long as it works, I'll probably be happy =)
Posted: 31 Mar 2017, 00:01
by Chyros
//gainsborough wrote:
That's the board I have, but with the normal black zenith badge. The problem is that one would also be a weird XT protocol, right?
fujitsu leaf spring, maybe? Not sure, but it looks neat!
edit: now I'm almost positive that it is fujitsu leaf spring
It is FLS. That model has sprung up a few times recently. You can also tell by the pinout.
Posted: 31 Mar 2017, 00:07
by Slom
Chyros wrote: //gainsborough wrote:
fujitsu leaf spring, maybe? Not sure, but it looks neat!
edit: now I'm almost positive that it is fujitsu leaf spring
It is FLS. That model has sprung up a few times recently. You can also tell by the pinout.
Thanks

FLS is still on my list to try ... but I'm sooooo over budget right now

Posted: 31 Mar 2017, 05:23
by //gainsborough
Posted: 31 Mar 2017, 05:48
by Slom
US shipping only
Could anyone proxy to Germany?
Posted: 31 Mar 2017, 05:55
by //gainsborough
You just said you were over budget!
Posted: 31 Mar 2017, 05:58
by Slom
I know
And I don't even like XT layout that much ... but that badge ...
Posted: 31 Mar 2017, 07:01
by cumwagondeluxe
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Vintage-Heath-Co ... 2353527837
Kind of not worth I guess considering the pingmasters are still available, but IMO this is way more aesthetic. Should be green SKCC alps
Posted: 31 Mar 2017, 07:28
by taylorswiftttttt
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Posted: 31 Mar 2017, 07:32
by seebart
I've never seen the Heathkit model HTX-10 here before that I can remember but that does not mean it's not possible to "teensy".
Posted: 31 Mar 2017, 07:40
by XMIT
Model F AT on SF Goodwill's eBay page!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/182505928143
Posted: 31 Mar 2017, 07:44
by cumwagondeluxe
seebart wrote: I've never seen the Heathkit model HTX-10 here before that I can remember but that does not mean it's not possible to "teensy".
Isn't pretty much any semi-conventional keyboard possible to teensy, provided you have the patience/time to trace the PCB and stuff? Not sure how it gets when it comes to non-contact switches, but I thought I remembered seeing a guide somewhere that made that claim.
Posted: 31 Mar 2017, 08:07
by seebart
Sure it's possible, I know nothing about that Heathkit HTX-10, this looks similair but there's no information either:
http://terminals-wiki.org/wiki/index.ph ... kit_HTX-10