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Posted: 16 Apr 2017, 18:07
by Lynx_Carpathica
fohat wrote: taylorswiftttttt wrote:
Please don't spend $60 on an M2
In good clean working condition, with cheap shipping, and an opportunity for a lower offer, that really isn't terrible.
Some people really like them.
Like I do.
It's still buckling spring...
But mutch smaller.
Posted: 16 Apr 2017, 18:27
by HAL
Lynx_Carpathica wrote: fohat wrote: taylorswiftttttt wrote:
Please don't spend $60 on an M2
In good clean working condition, with cheap shipping, and an opportunity for a lower offer, that really isn't terrible.
Some people really like them.
Like I do.
It's still buckling spring...
But mutch smaller.
I second that.
It also has the same mechanics as the much sought after M15.
Posted: 16 Apr 2017, 19:48
by balotz
Rebranded old logo Dell AT101, salmon Alps (?), dyesub PBT, ISO (UK) layout.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1985-Vintage- ... SwmCVY8kql
Posted: 16 Apr 2017, 19:50
by ohaimark
Tandy 3000 -- the only easy to convert Fujitsu Leaf Spring board:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-5-Pin-K ... 2624652518
Affirmative M122, cheap, very nice legends:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Clicky-mechanic ... 2476160645
Posted: 17 Apr 2017, 05:08
by atrere
Only easy way? With a multimeter and contact switches, anything is possible!
Posted: 17 Apr 2017, 05:12
by taylorswiftttttt
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Posted: 17 Apr 2017, 17:17
by tkim
Posted: 17 Apr 2017, 20:35
by taylorswiftttttt
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Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 17 Apr 2017, 20:37
by mike52787
taylorswiftttttt wrote:
Doubleshot PBT does not exist, so it's either Dyesub PBT or doubleshot ABS.
ummm, yes it does. typically it is a PBT keycap with a POM legend.
Posted: 17 Apr 2017, 21:39
by Stabilized
taylorswiftttttt wrote: Doubleshot PBT does not exist, so it's either Dyesub PBT or doubleshot ABS.
This evidence shows the contrary:
http://www.tai-hao.com/catalog/ins.php?index_id=57
http://www.vortexgear.tw/vortex2_2.asp? ... kind4=1029
From the listing:
"Slight yellowing
Wire is also nice"
Not from what I can see!

Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 18 Apr 2017, 00:57
by Techno Trousers
I have some nice Vortex "bi-color" blue and white double shot PBT caps on my keyboard. They are quite hard to find, though. I think Massdrop did a recent black on white double shot PBT run.
Posted: 19 Apr 2017, 19:13
by jgaynor
Sleeper auction that included an F unsaver. Was at $80 yesterday, $120 this morning - did not expect this final price:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/152508261585
Posted: 19 Apr 2017, 19:27
by Chyros
What do people see in these boards?!
Posted: 19 Apr 2017, 19:32
by Stabilized
Well at least the money is going to charity!
Posted: 19 Apr 2017, 19:34
by emdude
I was watching the auction too. I was surprised it ended up as low as it did; was expecting something in the neighborhood of 600-700 USD. That Unsaver is an undocumented part number too, note the strange layout and keycaps!
Posted: 19 Apr 2017, 19:34
by E TwentyNine
Chyros wrote: What do people see in these boards?!
Rarity. I'm not a fan, but it does have some functionality over a 122 on a modern desktop as you have space for a mouse closer in.
Posted: 19 Apr 2017, 19:43
by jgaynor
emdude wrote: I was watching the auction too. I was surprised it ended up as low as it did; was expecting something in the neighborhood of 600-700 USD. That Unsaver is an undocumented part number too, note the strange layout and keycaps!
I googled the PN earlier this week and almost had a heart attack. My coworkers did not understand why a lack of search result was cause for such alarm. Really wanted to see what that red-legend right alt was as well . . .
Posted: 19 Apr 2017, 19:55
by E TwentyNine
jgaynor wrote: emdude wrote: I was watching the auction too. I was surprised it ended up as low as it did; was expecting something in the neighborhood of 600-700 USD. That Unsaver is an undocumented part number too, note the strange layout and keycaps!
I googled the PN earlier this week and almost had a heart attack. My coworkers did not understand why a lack of search result was cause for such alarm. Really wanted to see what that red-legend right alt was as well . . .
I'm not certain why an undocumented pn is a big deal. IBM changed part numbers way too often.
Posted: 19 Apr 2017, 19:56
by seebart
E TwentyNine wrote: Chyros wrote: jgaynor wrote: Sleeper auction that included an F unsaver. Was at $80 yesterday, $120 this morning - did not expect this final price:
Regardless of PN or red-legend right alt $537.57 for two M's and an Unsaver is not exactly a bargain. Although that one M is an older square label. Still.
Posted: 19 Apr 2017, 20:11
by Chyros
E TwentyNine wrote: Chyros wrote: What do people see in these boards?!
Rarity. I'm not a fan, but it does have some functionality over a 122 on a modern desktop as you have space for a mouse closer in.
Rubbish, the way I see it. If you want a big model F, you get a battleship. If you want a small one, you get an AT. Neither cost anywhere remotely as much as this Oo . You don't even need to convert the F AT if you've got a PS/2 port xD .
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 19 Apr 2017, 20:28
by Techno Trousers
I'm kind of surprised the other way. I would have expected the Unsaver prices to drop with the Ellipse and lot_lizard projects. But I guess some like collecting keyboards as a part of history rather than for regular use.
Posted: 19 Apr 2017, 22:04
by Harshmallow
Techno Trousers wrote: I'm kind of surprised the other way. I would have expected the Unsaver prices to drop with the Ellipse and lot_lizard projects. But I guess some like collecting keyboards as a part of history rather than for regular use.
I believe those that covet these keyboards could care less about modern recreations - even if those recreations are better versions of the classic ones. I certainly couldn't bring myself to spend quite that much one a single board like that, though I guess I came close with the K2AX. I can still say that one is one of a kind though

Posted: 19 Apr 2017, 22:17
by seebart
Harshmallow wrote: Techno Trousers wrote: I believe those that covet these keyboards could care less about modern recreations - even if those recreations are better versions of the classic ones.
When I can have the original in good shape why would I want a reproduction? Unsaver prices will not fall due to whatever projects. Why do so many prefer the SSK to the regualr Model M's even with the hefty premium pricetag for the SSK and neither are really rare? Then one can up that even further by buying the even more expensive industrial that's basically just the same keyboard in a different color. Madness.
Posted: 19 Apr 2017, 22:31
by Harshmallow
Human nature I guess...we've always got to best our neighbour's new car, or keyboard, in this case.
Posted: 19 Apr 2017, 22:38
by seebart
Harshmallow wrote: Human nature I guess...we've always got to best our neighbour's new car, or keyboard, in this case.
Hmm well I think there's a little more to it but that's part of it yes. Once you really get starred in this hobby often (for me) it's somewhat difficult to just say..."nah why bother with that xxx keyboard now when I've been looking for it for months and years by now and I really still want it". I've seen quite a few users here come to a point where they sell large parts of their collection and I always have resepct for that. Not sure when or if I'll get there.
Posted: 19 Apr 2017, 23:30
by ohaimark
I'm weird in that regard. There are three reasons I'll pick up a keyboard:
1) It deserves to be saved or cleaned; I need to break even or profit when I flip it in this situation.
2) It is something that I want represented in my collection. I keep a limited number of keyboards to represent families of things, such as Alps switches, instead of amassing keyboards I will see once in a blue moon.
3) It replaces a representative keyboard in my collection with a more interesting (better condition, more usable, more durable, etc.) variant. Bonus points if it represents a wider range, which would allow me to downsize further.
Edit: right now I don't see the appeal of an Unsaver, as I have Model Fs represented by the smaller F AT.
Posted: 20 Apr 2017, 00:04
by XMIT
I really need to start selling some keyboards.
Posted: 20 Apr 2017, 00:13
by taylorswiftttttt
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Posted: 21 Apr 2017, 10:51
by ohaimark
The gold label Omnikey 102 that I purchased was in poor condition. Its switches are a grit fest and the case is cracked on the right hand side, which was not particularly visible in the photos. The seller was uncooperative when I initiated a return, but my 100% eBay win rate stands. The case was resolved in my favor.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Gold-La ... 2440692407
If you see that item listed again, I advise steering clear. It's a $60 keyboard at best, though it will likely go for more due to hype.
Posted: 21 Apr 2017, 11:24
by Chyros
ohaimark wrote: The gold label Omnikey 102 that I purchased was in poor condition. Its switches are a grit fest and the case is cracked on the right hand side, which was not particularly visible in the photos. The seller was uncooperative when I initiated a return, but my 100% eBay win rate stands. The case was resolved in my favor.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Gold-La ... 2440692407
If you see that item listed again, I advise steering clear. It's a $60 keyboard at best, though it will likely go for more due to hype.
Heh, so I was right; the pictures' angles and light WERE taken in such a way to avoid showing the real condition of the board ^^ . Shame that the board is essentially rekt, they are such nice boards in every way.