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I'll give it a listen.

I'm also into the Velvet Underground… but before you answer: the live, thrashy, no one's ever heard of them Underground who gigged in student bars and high school ballrooms when they had nowhere else to go. Sterling Morrison doing accidental lead on rhythm guitar and Lou Reed being Lou Goddamn Reed while completely unrecognized, backed up by a heavily pregnant Mo Tucker who nips off every few minutes for the toilet: that's fine music too! They weren't great, but they were so great. So yeah, you're right about what else makes a song. It's not all 20 minute sitar solos for me either.

BlueBär wrote:You mean football.

Isn't that the same thing? Or americans say soccer and we say football?

No no no. Americans call rugger soccer, and handball football. They also call offside powerplay. Get it right, man! I think it's just our good friends the Canucks who call drunken ice brawling hockey.

Anyway: SPORTS! AW YEAH, OFFENSE, OFFENSE! PLUS GOAL, PLUS GOOOOOAAAAAALLLLL!

Muirium wrote:No no no. Americans call rugger soccer, and handball football. They also call offside powerplay. Get it right, man! I think it's just our good friends the Canucks who call drunken ice brawling hockey.

Anyway: SPORTS! AW YEAH, OFFENSE, OFFENSE! PLUS GOAL, PLUS GOOOOOAAAAAALLLLL!

no, it's the rest of the world who call sober meadow trotting hockey.

Ah, polo. Just needs elephants and fun is guaranteed!

new blog post: HOLY CRAP

you guys look at how cool the off-topic section looks now that that warm-ass dog is ALWAYS GONNA BE THERE

thanks for making my blog even cooler. deskthority is the best club AND the best blogging platform in the history of the blogosphere.

PS: can i get a twitter on deskthority too?

truly, it's no problem.

new blog post: i found a cat i like

this makes... 3? 4? i don't like cats.



just kidding i do but only Cool Cats. and not the barftastic raverbro store kind of Coot Cat. mostly i like cats that act like dogs.

So you're saying you like retarded cats?

>i don't like cats

Who doesn't like cats!
You know, I like dogs, I love dogs, I really do, who doesn't like dogs, but there's one fundamental problem with dogs. There are many examples to explain this problem. For example, there are videos of dogs in Asia, locked up and fed sparsely, trained for optimal aggression, as fighting dogs, on which you can bet. These are mean dogs. The video shows when they are fed, they love and adore their abusing masters. But let's go full Godwin. The problem with dogs is that Hitler's dog loved Hitler. If he'd had a cat, the cat would not have loved Hitler. This is the problem with dogs. Dogs have unconditional love, but to anyone, regardless of merit. One could argue a dog's love is worthless. Your dog would love any master. This species has no spine.

What a weird theory.

webwit wrote: >i don't like cats

Who doesn't like cats!
You know, I like dogs, I love dogs, I really do, who doesn't like dogs, but there's one fundamental problem with dogs. There are many examples to explain this problem. For example, there are videos of dogs in Asia, locked up and fed sparsely, trained for optimal aggression, as fighting dogs, on which you can bet. These are mean dogs. The video shows when they are fed, they love and adore their abusing masters. But let's go full Godwin. The problem with dogs is that Hitler's dog loved Hitler. If he'd had a cat, the cat would not have loved Hitler. This is the problem with dogs. Dogs have unconditional love, but to anyone, regardless of merit. One could argue a dog's love is worthless. Your dog would love any master. This species has no spine.

dogs aim to please because it is rewarding, and social behavior is considered a higher sign of Some Scientific Measurement Of How Smart An Animal Is ( ) than solitary behavior. cats are too dumb to realize that being nice rules.

we also basically invented dogs so they're pretty much bred to be as awesome as we want them to be. cats just don't have the benefit of intelligent design! that's why there are so many kinds of dogs; even people with bad taste deserve a pet that will love them.

webwit wrote: […] For example, there are videos of dogs in Asia, locked up and fed sparsely, trained for optimal aggression, as fighting dogs, on which you can bet. These are mean dogs. The video shows when they are fed, they love and adore their abusing masters. But let's go full Godwin. The problem with dogs is that Hitler's dog loved Hitler. If he'd had a cat, the cat would not have loved Hitler. This is the problem with dogs. Dogs have unconditional love, but to anyone, regardless of merit. One could argue a dog's love is worthless. Your dog would love any master. This species has no spine.

Interestingly enough, this also applies to small children.
So why do I love children and cats, but not dogs?
Probably because dogs are too much like humans,
while cats just don't care

Edit: sth's last post seems to confirm this - he just draws opposite conclusions

Cats VS dogs is like Windows VS Mac VS Linux or Rolling Stones VS Beatles.

So: I vote for Dogs, Children and the Stones.

webwit wrote: >i don't like cats

Who doesn't like cats!
You know, I like dogs, I love dogs, I really do, who doesn't like dogs, but there's one fundamental problem with dogs. There are many examples to explain this problem. For example, there are videos of dogs in Asia, locked up and fed sparsely, trained for optimal aggression, as fighting dogs, on which you can bet. These are mean dogs. The video shows when they are fed, they love and adore their abusing masters. But let's go full Godwin. The problem with dogs is that Hitler's dog loved Hitler. If he'd had a cat, the cat would not have loved Hitler. This is the problem with dogs. Dogs have unconditional love, but to anyone, regardless of merit. One could argue a dog's love is worthless. Your dog would love any master. This species has no spine.

So basically dogs are racist, although they don't care who they love?

adhoc wrote: […] So basically dogs are racist, although they don't care who they love?

That's certainly not what webwit implied.
If the Pope has a dog and the dog loves him, it doesn't mean the dog is catholic

Dogs just love whoever happens to own them.
They are not just slaves, they are content slaves.

webwit wrote: The problem with dogs is that Hitler's dog loved Hitler. If he'd had a cat, the cat would not have loved Hitler. This is the problem with dogs. Dogs have unconditional love, but to anyone, regardless of merit. One could argue a dog's love is worthless. Your dog would love any master. This species has no spine.

I like you :3

kbdfr wrote: Dogs just love whoever happens to own them.

That's not true though. Only a person who never owned a dog can claim that.

I had dogs when growing up, and that rings completely true to me. They attach to whoever spends time with them. It's a pack animal thing. That's what made them so domesticable in the first place. I read in Guns, Germs & Steel that dogs are the one domestic animal every historical people had. The Native Americans lacked horses or anything powerful enough to pull a cart before we took them there. And Europe had no horses until Asian ones were brought here for warfare in the iron age.

Dogs are dumbed down wolves. We get on quite well with them. Especially when we have sheep to herd or invaders to bite. Not so well suited to towns, though.

There are some videos on youtube about a Russian fox farm, where they have been researching this since the 50ties. In short, take 10 foxes, and only let the passive ones breed. Repeat. After a couple of generations you have domesticated foxes.

I suspect the Russians wanted to know whether they could do this to humans. The answer is DUR YEH!

Also:

https://hummingdinosaur.wordpress.com/2 ... ome-foxes/

The Russians found that the cuter the fox (the younger it looks, even when adult) the dumber and more pleasant. Go go Cute Fox! Also: ponies.

Gah, bloody science. No surprise then that Hitler was into dogs. They were the literal embodiment of everything he had in mind for mankind, too.

That's quite ignorant of you Mu. But then again, ignorance is bliss, so enjoy

I'd better. Because you didn't tell me which part!

Well, there are people who study animal behaviour. Dogs social behaviour and hierarchy is quite complex and far from "dogs bend over lulz".

There are really weird things and theories going on here. Hitler, domestication, ownership, foxes.

So this thread needs more dog love, here's our dog about 9 years ago hanging around with a sheep:

Impossible! Dogs are Hitler animals according to Deskthority, so it MUST be true!

Dog would have looked the same if that sheep was Hitler lying on the bed!

PS: We're just chatting about an interesting tro^d^d^d thesis.

Yeah this thread does remind of Geekhack quite a lot.

What, is it all the Hitler? Man, some people just can't get enough Hitler. No Himmler for them. Gotta be the real McCoy.

Don't worry, I have a vague idea of pack hierarchies and the politics that goes on between wolves, and therefore dogs. I grew up in Britain, and therefore on the BBC, which had an hour a night for David Attenborough and Jane Goodall documentaries all through the nineties. Or it felt like it, at least. After all that I must be, what, a week into an associates degree in animal psychology! Or a semester at a bad school. I've probably seen as many hours of gorilla shows as I've ever watched soap operas! I preferred the apes. As the acting was better.

But see how snark works? Reductio ad absurdium! It takes a cunninger, less lazy mind than mine to make with the funny while remaining true to the subject matter.

Now, back to our regularly scheduled Hitler… (woof)