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Posted: 02 Mar 2018, 17:21
by green-squid
yo Thomas! Since you are here and finished the work day from the university and back at the Secret Keyboard Place in your location,
what do you think of the accusations of Price inflation going on? 
Posted: 02 Mar 2018, 17:27
by Blaise170
green-squid wrote: yo Thomas! Since you are here and finished the work day from the university and back at the Secret Keyboard Place in your location,
what do you think of the accusations of Price inflation going on?
No offense but can we please get back to the topic at hand? I feel like my Great/Interesting Finds are being lost in the shuffle.
Posted: 02 Mar 2018, 17:29
by green-squid
Blaise170 wrote: green-squid wrote: yo Thomas! Since you are here and finished the work day from the university and back at the Secret Keyboard Place in your location,
what do you think of the accusations of Price inflation going on?
No offense but can we please get back to the topic at hand? I feel like my Great/Interesting Finds are being lost in the shuffle.
Hey don't cry, take this
Posted: 02 Mar 2018, 17:32
by //gainsborough
Blaise170 wrote: Frankly, I don't blame Chyros even if it were his videos. On the contrary actually, I blame it on the people with deep pockets who are willing to keep paying 4-5 times the going rate for a product just so that they can have it.
I have to echo Blaise here: it's really the people doing the buying that we have to blame. Chyros isn't going around forcing people to spend insane amounts of money - he doesn't set a market value on them. Sure he gave a favorable opinion of them, but he never said in any of his videos "these are worth $1k +." The blame falls on the people - people with money or people stupid enough to pay what sellers are asking for... or both, I guess.
Back on keyboards, though:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-IBM-51 ... SwElZamLPZ
here's a wildly overpriced brown alps board
Posted: 02 Mar 2018, 17:34
by green-squid
//gainsborough wrote: Blaise170 wrote: Frankly, I don't blame Chyros even if it were his videos. On the contrary actually, I blame it on the people with deep pockets who are willing to keep paying 4-5 times the going rate for a product just so that they can have it.
I have to echo Blaise here: it's really the people doing the buying that we have to blame. Chyros is going around forcing people spend insane amounts of money - he doesn't set a market value on them. Sure he gave a favorable opinion of them, but he never said in any of his videos "these are worth $1k +." The blame falls on the people - people with money or people stupid enough to pay what sellers are asking for... or both, I guess.
I agree!!! But he aint forcing.
Posted: 02 Mar 2018, 17:34
by //gainsborough
ah yeah, typo there - meant that he isn't**
Posted: 02 Mar 2018, 17:43
by j0d1
Lot of 11 IBM Model M:
https://m.bonanza.com/listings/Lot-of-1 ... d=41494860
Its 600$ but also OBO so maybe someone in the US can strike a deal on them.
Posted: 02 Mar 2018, 17:44
by Blaise170
//gainsborough wrote: here's a wildly overpriced brown alps board
I think the seller meant to list it for $29.50!
Posted: 02 Mar 2018, 17:48
by E TwentyNine
wobbled wrote: You have a certain youtuber to thank for overhyping the shit out of these things. They have been referred to as 'the best clicky switch' and 'the holy grail' both of which are subjective and are used constantly. I sold my 3278 like a year ago now and kept with capacitive buckling springs. When both switches are in top condition there really isn't any improvement in beamsprings over capacitive BS imo.
Not to mention a lot of 3278 models have a flimsy plastic palmwrest, wobbly keycaps, and a keycap height and profile that is ridiculous to type on.
The hype really needs to stop honestly
Everything's subjective. There are people who think Topre is the pinnacle of switch design. Those people are loons.
The beamspring *is* my holy grail of a switch, short of hooking up a selectric to a computer. The beam keyboards as a whole have other issues (height, layout), but the feel is different than a cap or mem BS. Force graphs are similar enough that you may not think so, but usage is a different thing.
All that being said, my daily drivers are an SSK and a modified AT. It's close enough and the layout is perfect.
Posted: 02 Mar 2018, 17:51
by kbdfr
Oh c'mon girlies, are IBMs the new boys in town? Bunches of IBM keyboards everywhere… how boring
Here's two keyboards you don't find very often:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/142678530511
https://www.ebay.de/itm/192443098450
And when was the last time you saw a
G80-2100?
Posted: 02 Mar 2018, 17:55
by hansichen
Both of them are online for quite some time now, good to see that the TA prices are decreasing. This board was already online for a month for 500€, seems like that's still too much. And I think we had a 2100 this winter on ebay, so yeah, they are way more uncommon on ebay than the usual beamer madness
Posted: 02 Mar 2018, 18:08
by purdobol
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 02 Mar 2018, 18:13
by Techno Trousers
[quote="//gainsborough][Chyros] gave a favorable opinion of them, but he never said in any of his videos "these are worth $1k +." [/quote]
I kind of want him to do something like that, ironically of course. "I'd gladly pay upwards of 800 quid for this stellar 71G4644 Model M. It's so much more elegant than your typical clattery IBM keyboard!"
Posted: 02 Mar 2018, 18:18
by Blaise170
Techno Trousers wrote: [quote="//gainsborough][Chyros] gave a favorable opinion of them, but he never said in any of his videos "these are worth $1k +."
I kind of want him to do something like that, ironically of course. "I'd gladly pay upwards of 800 quid for this stellar 71G4644 Model M. It's so much more elegant than your typical clattery IBM keyboard!"[/quote][/quote]
Better yet, let's artificially inflate foam and foil switches!
Posted: 02 Mar 2018, 18:30
by Iggy
Blaise170 wrote: Techno Trousers wrote: [quote="//gainsborough][Chyros] gave a favorable opinion of them, but he never said in any of his videos "these are worth $1k +."
I kind of want him to do something like that, ironically of course. "I'd gladly pay upwards of 800 quid for this stellar 71G4644 Model M. It's so much more elegant than your typical clattery IBM keyboard!"
[/quote]
Better yet, let's artificially inflate foam and foil switches!
[/quote][/quote][/quote]
And I just trashed four of those.
Posted: 02 Mar 2018, 20:51
by digital_matthew
Techno Trousers wrote: [quote="//gainsborough][Chyros] gave a favorable opinion of them, but he never said in any of his videos "these are worth $1k +."
I kind of want him to do something like that, ironically of course. "I'd gladly pay upwards of 800 quid for this stellar 71G4644 Model M. It's so much more elegant than your typical clattery IBM keyboard!"[/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote]
It's the most Topre-esque keyboard that IBM ever built! Yeah...that's it...
Posted: 02 Mar 2018, 21:12
by green-squid
Posted: 03 Mar 2018, 08:27
by kbdfr
Rarer and way cheaper than all your trendy IBMs:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/253461165169
Posted: 03 Mar 2018, 10:41
by webwit
kbdfr wrote: than all your trendy IBMs
It's an IBM Model M clone!
Posted: 03 Mar 2018, 11:21
by __red__
"Trendy" and "IBM" in the same sentence, I scarce believe it!
Posted: 03 Mar 2018, 11:23
by Chyros
webwit wrote: kbdfr wrote: than all your trendy IBMs
It's an IBM Model M clone!
HAHAHAHA
Posted: 03 Mar 2018, 13:31
by hansichen
Hahaha, he had this listed for like double the price with a normal shipping rate recently and now it looks like a cheap board but shipping to every conutry is 400$
Posted: 03 Mar 2018, 13:40
by mecano
Posted: 03 Mar 2018, 16:53
by mike52787
hansichen wrote:
Hahaha, he had this listed for like double the price with a normal shipping rate recently and now it looks like a cheap board but shipping to every conutry is 400$
those caps are ugly af too... sad
Posted: 03 Mar 2018, 20:19
by Tuntematon
That Industrial XT auction is really getting out of hand. This used to be a sub-$100 board
https://www.ebay.com/itm/VTG-EARLY-1985 ... 1438.l2649
Posted: 03 Mar 2018, 21:09
by Gnohio
Its not even the buckling spring version either..
Posted: 03 Mar 2018, 21:19
by green-squid
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 03 Mar 2018, 21:56
by Techno Trousers
Gnohio wrote:
Its not even the buckling spring version either..
Thankfully the seller is being totally up front about that, but it just adds to the mystery of the price.
It makes me wonder if there are pure speculators buying keyboards these days, just to store them away for later profits. It could explain the ridiculous beamspring prices. If so, what a waste.
Posted: 03 Mar 2018, 22:16
by Gnohio
Techno Trousers wrote: Gnohio wrote:
Its not even the buckling spring version either..
Thankfully the seller is being totally up front about that, but it just adds to the mystery of the price.
It makes me wonder if there are pure speculators buying keyboards these days, just to store them away for later profits. It could explain the ridiculous beamspring prices. If so, what a waste.
"Why buy it if you arent (eventually) going to use it?"
Posted: 03 Mar 2018, 22:18
by digital_matthew
Techno Trousers wrote: Gnohio wrote:
Its not even the buckling spring version either..
Thankfully the seller is being totally up front about that, but it just adds to the mystery of the price.
It makes me wonder if there are pure speculators buying keyboards these days, just to store them away for later profits. It could explain the ridiculous beamspring prices. If so, what a waste.
Agreed that it's pretty dumb to buy and hold antique keyboards like they're a speculative commodity. Many in this forum would agree that they are overvalued at the moment, and there are more traditional investment vehicles to use.