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Posted: 07 Sep 2018, 21:54
by adamcobabe
IBM 3278 Beamspring. Little bit rough around the edges.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-3278-1982- ... 3519826887
Posted: 07 Sep 2018, 22:02
by fslice
//gainsborough wrote: fslice wrote:
I did in fact search for sold listings, still doesn't come up (even now). I did some research and apparently this isn't an uncommon issue. Anyway, I ended up using an external eBay search aggregator and found it that way. Looks like I'll have to set up my alerts there instead of eBay itself.
Thanks
Ah - yeah that's happened to me as well. What external site did you use? I'm interested!
I used
Geo-Ship, the first one I found that worked for me. It aggregates results across eBay's regional sites. It has 4-hour alerts, but who knows if that's fast enough nowadays.
How good is $500 for two random F122s anyway? I seem to think it's amazing, but I'm new to this. Unicomp -> M -> M122 -> hoping for F122 and I should be done.
Posted: 07 Sep 2018, 22:19
by //gainsborough
fslice wrote: //gainsborough wrote: fslice wrote:
I did in fact search for sold listings, still doesn't come up (even now). I did some research and apparently this isn't an uncommon issue. Anyway, I ended up using an external eBay search aggregator and found it that way. Looks like I'll have to set up my alerts there instead of eBay itself.
Thanks
Ah - yeah that's happened to me as well. What external site did you use? I'm interested!
I used
Geo-Ship, the first one I found that worked for me. It aggregates results across eBay's regional sites. It has 4-hour alerts, but who knows if that's fast enough nowadays.
How good is $500 for two random F122s anyway? I seem to think it's amazing, but I'm new to this. Unicomp -> M -> M122 -> hoping for F122 and I should be done.
Cool, thanks mate!
$500 for two is pretty okay - probably around market value at this point for unconverted boards (maybe on the high side of average). f122s were selling crazy high even just last month but it seems to have come down a little. I've seen a few go for around $200 recently. The high priced Fs are usually USB converted.
Posted: 07 Sep 2018, 22:45
by Bass
$250 is definitely a good price for an F122 right now but keep in mind that seller had a rather low feedback score and only posted two (REALLY blurry) pictures. Wouldn't surprise me if both were in really bad shape underneath.
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 08 Sep 2018, 01:52
by Techno Trousers
Bass wrote:$250 is definitely a good price for an F122 right now but keep in mind that seller had a rather low feedback score and only posted two (REALLY blurry) pictures. Wouldn't surprise me if both were in really bad shape underneath.
Seller only showed a picture of the bottom of one of them, so the cynic in me thought immediately that the second is an M.
Posted: 09 Sep 2018, 20:25
by risk23
https://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-KEYBOA ... 2428744783
Can't quite place it, but the caps are mucho caliente and the board looks interesting. Thoughts?
Posted: 10 Sep 2018, 04:51
by DatOtherJosh
Posted: 10 Sep 2018, 05:14
by SwissArmyTin
It's a membrane board according to the back of the box.
Posted: 10 Sep 2018, 17:51
by Blaise170
Indeed it is, it uses Alps compatible sliders though.
Posted: 11 Sep 2018, 05:40
by Red_October
Bass wrote: $250 is definitely a good price for an F122 right now but keep in mind that seller had a rather low feedback score and only posted two (REALLY blurry) pictures. Wouldn't surprise me if both were in really bad shape underneath.
You're kidding! I paid $160 for mine and I'm not proud of it... I guess I should be?? That's insane that that's considered a good deal, that's the second-most I've ever paid for a keyboard ($200 for a NIB M5-II) and I don't like to spend more than $50 for something I can't use (or would have to make significant outlays of effort to use) or $100 for something I can and would.
Posted: 11 Sep 2018, 06:37
by xxhellfirexx
Red_October wrote:
You're kidding! I paid $160 for mine and I'm not proud of it... I guess I should be?? That's insane that that's considered a good deal, that's the second-most I've ever paid for a keyboard ($200 for a NIB M5-II) and I don't like to spend more than $50 for something I can't use (or would have to make significant outlays of effort to use) or $100 for something I can and would.
You think that is ridiculous? You should see the prices for keyboards with dirty Alps SKCM Blue switches.
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 11 Sep 2018, 06:43
by Techno Trousers
There's a Model F AT on eBay right now, with high bid plus shipping just a hair under $300 USD, and over 3 days left in the auction. IBM Model F and beamspring keyboards are red hot these days.
Posted: 11 Sep 2018, 07:06
by Myoth
to be honest the Model F Market is a weird one at the moment, stuff that should sell doesn't and stuff which is overpriced sells, my F107 has been such a pain to sell even though it's the cheapest one on the market at the moment.
I'm glad I'm quitting Model Fs as a whole since I bought my final Model For recently and will be selling the other ones.
Posted: 11 Sep 2018, 09:06
by xxhellfirexx
Myoth wrote: to be honest the Model F Market is a weird one at the moment, stuff that should sell doesn't and stuff which is overpriced sells, my F107 has been such a pain to sell even though it's the cheapest one on the market at the moment.
I'm glad I'm quitting Model Fs as a whole since I bought my final Model For recently and will be selling the other ones.
I see it as an effective way to stop my addiction as all the good keyboards are not what I would consider a good deal (under $100 USD).
Just out of curiosity, how much is your f107 listed for? I couldn't find it on eBay.
Posted: 12 Sep 2018, 02:08
by consolation
Monterey Blues

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Actually, the seller has a bunch of interesting ones
https://www.trademe.co.nz/Members/Listi ... 61&cid=244
eg:

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(15NZ$ is roughly 10 US$)
PS.
BTW, just picked this up from a charity auction.
1980 NZ Railways Corp. Keyboard. SKCC Alps as far as I can tell; without getting my hands on it.

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Also, I got this a while ago, but haven't had time to play with till now, a 1984 Amkey BIORAD from a nuclear science lab (?) It's by the same people who did keyboards for B52s, the body is fiberglass and the switches are ridiculously smooth, non spongy, foam and foil based individual linears with n-key rollover. I've got to do a full teardown on this one at some stage.

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(Norbatouch for scale - this thing is super long - if we have battleships and battlecruisers; this is a nuclear sub.)
Posted: 12 Sep 2018, 03:41
by zrrion
that sub and the skcc board are super nice
Posted: 12 Sep 2018, 04:08
by Elrick
consolation wrote:
BR-Plan_NT.JPG
(Norbatouch for scale - this thing is super long - if we have battleships and battlecruisers; this is a nuclear sub.)
To be 100% clear it can only be a functioning "Nuclear Sub' if it actually works - meaning you must have it working on your PC desktop.
As most old keyboards are large and heavy most end up like beached whales, dead and worthless unless someone talented and unique, can resurrect them from their long time slumber and inactivity.
Posted: 12 Sep 2018, 05:08
by consolation
They got a amkey working a while ago on geekhack, they seem fairly simple to convert to modern protocols. The reason I have to get inside is to figure out how the joystick works. BTW 9U spacebar on the sub...
Posted: 12 Sep 2018, 05:12
by consolation
zrrion wrote: that sub and the skcc board are super nice
I can't wait to get my hands on the Rail corp. board. I really like the layout and the 70s leather couch stylings

Posted: 12 Sep 2018, 15:15
by digital_matthew
Posted: 13 Sep 2018, 03:04
by orihalcon
consolation wrote: zrrion wrote: that sub and the skcc board are super nice
I can't wait to get my hands on the Rail corp. board. I really like the layout and the 70s leather couch stylings

Hmm, yeah, will be interesting to see what switches that uses. The appearance of the numpad zero with the line through it kind of makes me think less likely alps as I don't recall seeing that on other SKCC boards, but this definitely isn't my field of expertise

Posted: 13 Sep 2018, 03:17
by JP!
orihalcon wrote: consolation wrote: zrrion wrote: that sub and the skcc board are super nice
I can't wait to get my hands on the Rail corp. board. I really like the layout and the 70s leather couch stylings

Hmm, yeah, will be interesting to see what switches that uses. The appearance of the numpad zero with the line through it kind of makes me think less likely alps as I don't recall seeing that on other SKCC boards, but this definitely isn't my field of expertise

Every time I look at that board I am reminded of this:
Posted: 13 Sep 2018, 08:50
by snufflecat
Interesting. I have an identical board with black switches.
Posted: 13 Sep 2018, 11:33
by Ander
Elrick wrote: consolation wrote:
To be 100% clear it can only be a functioning "Nuclear Sub' if it actually works...
Nonsense. A motor doesn't stop being electric when it's turned off.
Posted: 13 Sep 2018, 13:20
by consolation
orihalcon wrote: consolation wrote: zrrion wrote: that sub and the skcc board are super nice
I can't wait to get my hands on the Rail corp. board. I really like the layout and the 70s leather couch stylings

Hmm, yeah, will be interesting to see what switches that uses. The appearance of the numpad zero with the line through it kind of makes me think less likely alps as I don't recall seeing that on other SKCC boards, but this definitely isn't my field of expertise


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SKCC cream alps
Check out the crazy profile

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Interestingly the keyboard was built in in 1973 using Lexan and was upgraded in 1984 to the current PCB and switches (or at least the PCB was manufactured in 1984.) It feels so much like 70s vinyl / plastic of my childhood; thicker and less brittle - more like stiff textured vinyl. I'm an idiot and should know better, look at post below by Hak Foo

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Nice doubleshots

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I will make a detailed post with the Railways Corp board and the sub, as soon as a third board i got arrives. I'm hoping it's fujitsu gen 1 switches. The Railways board would be a very usable layout (oh numpad is all R3 lol), I'm thinking hand wire to teensey is probably simplest. Just not sure I've got the time as other projects are queued up... really would like to see it revived though.
Posted: 14 Sep 2018, 04:41
by Hak Foo
If it's a Taiwanese board, the '73' in the date stamp may refer to their era calendar, which is ~1984.
Posted: 14 Sep 2018, 15:10
by t!ng
Posted: 14 Sep 2018, 19:32
by Drclick
Posted: 14 Sep 2018, 21:14
by //gainsborough
Okay.... What is going on?!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Zenith ... SwHShbm-Pt
The title is obviously wrong (it's not SKCM greens) - but I've never seen a z150 with the tree logo, nor have I seen a tree-logo zenith board have green alps (usually yellow)! Also, the price is ridiculous, haha.
Posted: 14 Sep 2018, 21:46
by risk23
//gainsborough wrote: Okay.... What is going on?!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Zenith ... SwHShbm-Pt
The title is obviously wrong (it's not SKCM greens) - but I've never seen a z150 with the tree logo, nor have I seen a tree-logo zenith board have green alps (usually yellow)! Also, the price is ridiculous, haha.
Look like pine greens to me, unless I'm missing something? If it's a Z-150, it's the XT rather than the AT board. The tree is strange. Let me guess - you want to harvest the keycaps off this piece of computing history too?
