deskthority

7bit wrote:OK, they are already there. But the other keys!!!

They are necessary for Hyper/7bit-layouts. & is very useful on G80-2100 and firends, because there are 2 one unit keys instead of the vertical + key.

fair enough.

7bit wrote:Yes, and we need 2 units keys to fit on top of 2 key caps!

you are talking keyboard-ish now you mean that you need to remove the stems from a 2unit and fit it over 2 1u?!

There exist 2 units keys which fit on 2 switches, instead of 1 switch plus 2 stabilisers.

7bit wrote:OK, they are already there. But the other keys!!!

They are necessary for Hyper/7bit-layouts. & is very useful on G80-2100 and firends, because there are 2 one unit keys instead of the vertical + key.

What about 1.0 Backspace and 1.0 Shift (2x)?

7bit wrote:There exist 2 units keys which fit on 2 switches, instead of 1 switch plus 2 stabilisers.

ooookay

BimboBB wrote:What about 1.0 Backspace and 1.0 Shift (2x)?

blank or relegendable keys

ACK.

matt3o wrote:

7bit wrote:There exist 2 units keys which fit on 2 switches, instead of 1 switch plus 2 stabilisers.

ooookay

BimboBB wrote:What about 1.0 Backspace and 1.0 Shift (2x)?

blank or relegendable keys

doubleshot legends!

this thing is gonna cost a kidney if I keep adding keys

Just put all those extras into one kit.

And maybe add an ALPHA kit without those stupid F1-F12 and without modifiers.

I will post something later ...

Everything's the same except for the followings:



NO 1.5 diamonds, actually I'd like to remove all unbranded keys
NO Alien, no need for that but if we find a nice custom key I'd gladly add it

Then remove the diamonds completely. The commodore the the one to use where people qould use the diamond.
Get rid of the red 1 unit + and 1 unit Enter.

Make a 1.5 units Return key instead of the arrow.

Same for 1 unit for the numpad Run key!!!!

You are quite close to the perfect solution!

Just need an ALPHA kit. ALPHA kits are also good for people who want to swap the caps that go shiny quite quickly, while the rest remains OK.



ps: 5 without homing bump would be nice!

7bit wrote:Then remove the diamonds completely.

Agreed, but I also have to listen what GHers say

7bit wrote:Make a 1.5 units Return key instead of the arrow.

Same for 1 unit for the numpad Run key!!!!

Are they considered "standard" legend?

7bit wrote:Just need an ALPHA kit. ALPHA kits are also good for people who want to swap the caps that go shiny quite quickly, while the rest remains OK.

Buy 2 base kit then

7bit wrote:ps: 5 without homing bump would be nice!

makes no difference to me. I'll never ever use a numpad

These things are vital!

5 wihout homing bump / deep dish
1.5 units Return instead of arrow on the key (the arrow version is not required)
1 unit Run key instead of arrow and red version not required!


The diamonds make no sense GH is irrelevant!
ALPHA would please a lot of people who can't make sense of any of the standard modifiers (1.25 units etc.).

Please notice you don't have even a matching space bar for the standard kit!

Speaking as a weirdo who uses a kinesis in maltron layout, a deep dished 'i' would be a nice thing to have in the extras kit, and a couple of vertical 2x1 diamond keys wouldn't go amiss. Not gonna happen though, is it? Unless there's a horde of folks who decide to start using jesse's blue shift layout.

7bit wrote:The diamonds make no sense GH is irrelevant!

LOL!

Please note that our US proxy is a geekhacker... so...

7bit wrote:ALPHA would please a lot of people who can't make sense of any of the standard modifiers (1.25 units etc.).

Please notice you don't have even a matching space bar for the standard kit!

I understand what you mean. This is more a kit for custom keyboards than for Filco. I agree, hope people understand that. That's why I doubt we will reach a very high volume, and that's why I'm trying to keep the options low. but hey I'm 1bit you are 7 I trust your judgment.

Here is my update:

I'll update.

I don't like relegendables either... but -again- our proxy guy in the US likes them... so

matt3o wrote:I'll update.

I don't like relegendables either... but -again- our proxy guy in the US likes them... so

You make these kits:

STANDARD (as is)
NUMPAD (latest version I've shown you)
ALPHA (maybe a |\ key and it is perfect as in my graphic)
EXTRAGH (all the GeekHack fluff)
EXTRADT (all the stuff I want, plus some language specific stuff)
ERGODOX (as is, or maybe some additional stuff for Ergonomic keyboards people)

is the "return" key considered custom? do they already have the mold for that?

Trying to make some order



regarding the alpha set, no problem, if there's interest.

matt3o wrote:is the "return" key considered custom? do they already have the mold for that?

I don't know, but they never charged extra for plain text labels. I had quite a lot first time text labels.

ps: Now add the ALPHA kit and these 4 extra keys ...

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... and I will place an order!

still one small error


I'm still lame with gimp...



But Bravo ! for the hard work. it looks nice.

1.5 units Escape for certain Commodore keyboards?

7bit wrote:1.5 units Escape for certain Commodore keyboards?

nope
1.75 esc for certain vim user.

I think i'll end building my own vim/caps_lock group buy

If he gets vi-specific keys, I want the full Lisp/Symbolics range:
Super, Hyper, Meta, Function, Select, Complete, square, circle, triangle, thumb keys, I-IV, ....

Lisp is what you kiss, isn't it ?




When i offer perl to my wife she kisses my lisp. She likes ruby better as it is fine with her java watch, but i'm not too objective...


(time to go to sleep )

I believe this thing is going to be compatible even with Race... that would be a world first prolly

oh now that you say that they don't charge for letter legends I'm gonna have text only mods (c64 style)

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Gilgam wrote:When i offer perl to my wife she kisses my lisp. She likes ruby better as it is fine with her java watch, but i'm not too objective...

I C, you had been brainfucked by Pascal. Did he wear a LaTeX suit?

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what are these?

Key caps I need. The first symbol gets on top and the 2nd below, like this:
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7bit... I know you are super powered and the way of the keyboard flows strong in your blood... but... who are those keys for? 4 keys are not going to impact on pricing... I am just curious to know what keyboard or layout needs those keys.

okay, that layout is insane, you know that right?

edit: toying with the idea of a hyper-micro kit? we put there everything you need (even the fun and the cut and paste keys)