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Posted: 20 Nov 2012, 20:28
by 7bit
fossala wrote:Will there be plates if so which ones will have the reverse stagger plates?
There will be different mount plates.

What is reverse staggered?

Posted: 20 Nov 2012, 21:20
by fossala

Posted: 20 Nov 2012, 21:29
by JBert
7bit wrote:and then the 1/4-symmetric staggering like on PrinsValium's special keyboard.
@fossala: bpiphany, the one who started the thread you linked to is formerly known as PrinsValium. So yes, what 7bit calls symmetric staggering is also reverse staggering of the left part of the keyboard.

Posted: 20 Nov 2012, 22:28
by 7bit
What is GeekHack?
JBert wrote:... what 7bit calls symmetric staggering is also reverse staggering of the left part of the keyboard.
OK, thanks for clearing this up.

:-)

Posted: 20 Nov 2012, 23:58
by tlt
What about one of these thumbsticks on the qHACK? :)

Posted: 21 Nov 2012, 02:54
by TheQsanity
What about the lefthanded keyboard? (mirror one).

Just a suggestion. Anyone up for USB 2.0 ports? Could maybe go on the side or back?

Posted: 21 Nov 2012, 07:38
by tlt
I'm lefthanded and a mirrord keyboard sounds frightening. In what way is that better for lefthanded? A standard full size keyboard is designed for lefthanded with all the unnecessary keys to the right (numkeys) so you can get the mouse closer to you which is more ergonomic. ;)

I guess you could put a smal usb hub in the keyboard and that might be a good idea if your going to add a pointing device in it so you just need one cable to the computer. But that is more a question of case design.

Posted: 21 Nov 2012, 09:46
by TheQsanity
I am just curious on how quick I could pick up mirrored keyboard typing. Anyone else?

Posted: 21 Nov 2012, 10:06
by JBert
Seriously, if you want to make your keyboard habits incompatible with the keyboards 99% of the world uses then at least do it right. Symmetric staggering is the way to go, where each half is staggered according to each hand. A completely mirrored layout is just plain ridiculous.

Posted: 21 Nov 2012, 10:19
by Icarium
Why is a mirrored layout ridiculous? My hands both look pretty much the same. :)

Posted: 21 Nov 2012, 11:27
by 7bit
Icarium wrote:Why is a mirrored layout ridiculous? My hands both look pretty much the same. :)
He's got 2 left hands!
:o

Posted: 21 Nov 2012, 23:58
by TheQsanity
7bit wrote:
Icarium wrote:Why is a mirrored layout ridiculous? My hands both look pretty much the same. :)
He's got 2 left hands!
:o
Haha, Same but mirrored right??

Posted: 22 Nov 2012, 00:00
by webwit
Spoiler:
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Posted: 22 Nov 2012, 03:54
by TheQsanity
Well done....

Well done...


...

Spoiler:
Nice Photoshop Skillz

Posted: 24 Nov 2012, 19:48
by 7bit
First solution:

Posted: 24 Nov 2012, 19:54
by 7bit
The big hole in the middle is for a pointing stick. Does anybody know what diameter that hole must have?

This layout supports symmetric 1/4-stagger layout, 7bit, ANSI, ISO, HHKB-JP and matrix layout!

Because there is no space, the controller must be connected with wires to the PCB. I will add soldering pads for the whole matrix later.

The little holes below the switches are for the LEDs. Traces for them are still missing ...

Posted: 24 Nov 2012, 20:21
by gimpster
7bit wrote:Becuase there is no space, the controller must be connected with wires to the PCB.
How is that going to fit into your case design for this keyboard?

Posted: 24 Nov 2012, 20:26
by 7bit
As far as I know the Poker does not have space for a controller section above the key-field.

Posted: 27 Nov 2012, 17:51
by simkev
7bit wrote:First solution:
would this layout work on that pcb? Image
I mean, isnt this as sexy as it gets?
Image

Posted: 27 Nov 2012, 18:03
by 7bit
Yes, no problem!

Once I've conquered the PCB, I will post CAD files for the mount plates.

Posted: 27 Nov 2012, 18:15
by simkev
7bit wrote:Yes, no problem!

Once I've conquered the PCB, I will post CAD files for the mount plates.
Ok, awesome. Will mail Hyper then.

Posted: 27 Nov 2012, 19:28
by guilleguillaume
What do you think about this:

Image

We would be able to use full sets coming from G80-1800 and from Skidata keyboards:P

Posted: 27 Nov 2012, 19:30
by Ascaii
guilleguillaume wrote:What do you think about this:

Image

We would be able to use full sets coming from G80-1800 and from Skidata keyboards:P
second this, would love that option

Posted: 27 Nov 2012, 19:56
by 7bit
PCB: yes.
Plate: I must look, but I'm quite sure it works ...

More important for me is to know how the LEDs should be traced up.

Posted: 27 Nov 2012, 21:41
by rindorbrot
I like that option, too :D
Then I'd only need some lighter springs and could use the parts from the Skidata to get Ergo-Clears + full fitting DS set.

Posted: 27 Nov 2012, 22:34
by 7bit
rindorbrot wrote:I like that option, too :D
Then I'd only need some lighter springs and could use the parts from the Skidata to get Ergo-Clears + full fitting DS set.
You must buy some MXRED swtiches in the CherryMX group buy!

Re: AW: [IC] HyperMicro and HyperMini Keyboard

Posted: 27 Nov 2012, 23:23
by rindorbrot
Why did I knew you'd say that? :lol:
I still hope to get my hands on some of that Korean 62g springs, they sound really interesting.

Posted: 28 Nov 2012, 02:53
by trax
rindorbrot wrote:Why did I knew you'd say that? :lol:
I still hope to get my hands on some of that Korean 62g springs, they sound really interesting.
sherryton will sell some soon, he just got loads of em.

Posted: 28 Nov 2012, 08:15
by 7bit
To me, all springs just make "ping"!

Posted: 29 Nov 2012, 04:05
by sth
simkev wrote:
7bit wrote:First solution:
would this layout work on that pcb? Image
I mean, isnt this as sexy as it gets?
Image
just get GH60, it's already in beta testing.... exactly this layout, it's a clone of 356mini layout allowing use of 101-key cherry sets without any additional keys needed.