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Posted: 14 Mar 2016, 13:04
by bocahgundul
2000 here
Don't trash me cause I'm still a kid pls. Still learning about keyboard

Posted: 14 Mar 2016, 13:11
by seebart
bocahgundul wrote: 2000 here
Don't trash me cause I'm still a kid pls. Still learning about keyboard

Certianly not.

But I can't sell you 5k either.
A total of 59 votes from 9623 total members sofar.
Posted: 14 Mar 2016, 13:21
by fohat
seebart wrote:
from 9623 total members
And only 3 of us are over 50?
That seems way out of character for an enthusiast forum with a significant vintage component.
Posted: 14 Mar 2016, 13:27
by seebart
fohat wrote: And only 3 of us are over 50?
No I'd say this vote is not representative yet. We need more votes if this is going to say anything about our demographics.
Posted: 14 Mar 2016, 13:45
by kbdfr
In the
first survey three years ago, 5 out of 106 voters were age 47 and more, so all of these should now be at least 50.
And among the newcomers a few older ones could compensate for the naturally given higher death rate in this category

Posted: 14 Mar 2016, 13:54
by Scarpia
Even if we get a sample of 500, the survey most likely won't be representative.
Forum surveys like this are subject to a significant non-response/participation bias; the question of age carries a social desirability bias on top of that; and one could argue that it will have sampling errors due to language and the potential skew between casual (consuming) members and "interacting" members.
Just saying. No matter how many responses we get, I'd wager that the average age will lie significantly higher than the results would imply.
Posted: 14 Mar 2016, 14:07
by fohat
kbdfr wrote:
for the naturally given higher death rate in this category.
Damn, better revise our wills to specify what happens to the keyboards.
Posted: 14 Mar 2016, 14:10
by seebart
fohat wrote: kbdfr wrote:
for the naturally given higher death rate in this category.
Damn, better revise our wills to specify what happens to the keyboards.
That's a valid point. Mine are going to DT members I guess, but I need to get that worked out first. Hopefully I'l have a many more centuries to enjoy them.
Posted: 14 Mar 2016, 14:18
by kbdfr
My keyboards will be incinerated along with me.
I fear inhumation would entail the risk of someone disturbing my eternal rest

Posted: 14 Mar 2016, 14:36
by clickykeyboards
I have always been interested in web analytics and understanding who the vintage model M keyboard audience is and here is some of my anonymized group data sorted on age, country, city, language.

- clickykeyboards demographics February 2016
- ckb-stats.tiff (178.97 KiB) Viewed 14402 times
Posted: 14 Mar 2016, 14:43
by seebart
kbdfr wrote: My keyboards will be incinerated along with me.
I fear inhumation would entail the risk of someone disturbing my eternal rest

Quite egoistic.

Possibly even slightly "grumpy".

Posted: 14 Mar 2016, 17:21
by webwit
You're impatient. This is how I got one of my M15's.

Posted: 14 Mar 2016, 17:35
by seebart
webwit wrote: You're impatient. This is how I got one of my M15's.

You're the "duck of death" then.

- killer-duck_o_1086348.jpg (51.54 KiB) Viewed 14352 times
Posted: 14 Mar 2016, 17:42
by emdude
'96 here. I doubt I'll ever find a decent keyboard with my actual, full birthday, but I did manage to find an '87 1390131 with my birthday/month so I am pretty happy about that.

Posted: 14 Mar 2016, 21:01
by keycap
Born in the year 2000. I probably won't be able to find a (mechanical) keyboard that was manufactured on my day of birth... even if I try really hard. Oh well!

Posted: 14 Mar 2016, 21:09
by Khers
I was born in '86, but despite many good keyboards being made in that year, I don't have a single one. I do have multiple made in '87 and '85 though... Great. Yet another keyboard.

Posted: 14 Mar 2016, 22:38
by stuplarosa
Feels very strange to be the only one in my age bracket... <not saying which one>
Posted: 14 Mar 2016, 23:13
by fohat
stuplarosa wrote: Feels very strange to be the only one in my age bracket... <not saying which one>
There are 4 of us. You are not alone alone.
Posted: 14 Mar 2016, 23:16
by Redmaus
webwit wrote: You're impatient. This is how I got one of my M15's.

that image oh my god
Posted: 14 Mar 2016, 23:19
by seebart
We also have someone that is 15 or younger, I happen to know that's not fohat.
Yeah webwit went a little hardcore there with that image.

"The duck of death".

Posted: 14 Mar 2016, 23:36
by bricomaz
Funny. I was thinking about making such a poll 2 days ago

anyway I think it will be interesting to understand what brings the younger ones into mechanical keyboards since I'm quite sure for us "differently young" (47 on next march 18th here...) nostalgia plays a significant role...or is it? I mean when I started with computers clacky keyboards were almost the *only* option.
Posted: 14 Mar 2016, 23:41
by seebart
Yeah bricomaz you're a tad older than me but I know what you mean. All the first computer keyboards I used were mechanical, just that no one back then gave any thought to it since that was normal and there was nothing else. Mice on the other hand were still something new to many.
Posted: 15 Mar 2016, 06:41
by kbdfr
Obviously someone felt very funny:

- year of birth.jpg (6.56 KiB) Viewed 14242 times
Just for your information: this option was of course not included for use in ~10 years,
but as a trap you couldn't resist falling into

Posted: 15 Mar 2016, 06:42
by Redmaus
DT the keyboard forum for users of all ages!
Including five year olds apparently

Posted: 15 Mar 2016, 08:03
by Scarpia
clickykeyboards wrote: I have always been interested in web analytics and understanding who the vintage model M keyboard audience is
Me too

I can recommend the free tool
UserReport for more analytics/surveying/data mining goodness
full disclosure: I am involved in its development
Posted: 15 Mar 2016, 08:15
by elecplus
I learned to program in binary over a 300 baud uplink to the university from our local high school in 1976. Yes, the keyboard weighed at least 10 pounds and did NOT have a backspace key

It was an IBM terminal, but I don't recall which one. I guess I am one of the few over 50

Posted: 15 Mar 2016, 09:59
by ohaimark
Poll: how many people under 30 know what baud rate is without Googling it? Other than me, of course.

Posted: 15 Mar 2016, 10:18
by kbdfr
Those were the times when in order to connect to an extern computer you had to dial its phone number and squeeze your telephone handset into an acoustic coupler:

Posted: 15 Mar 2016, 11:04
by Halvar
Were these ever used outside of Germany (where the Bundespost wouldn't allow modems)? I always thought that at least in the US, people could connect modems to the telephone network right from the start.
Posted: 15 Mar 2016, 11:49
by Madhias
My father has such phone tool at home. Also I remember using mail boxes and logging in with a 14,400 baud modem, and also a great 56k modem, downloading shareware!