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Wodan wrote:

MrBishop wrote:

Wodan wrote: WTF the link is still dead. Get your shit together GH

you said it not me but yeah

Not even a courtesy/approval bump ...

It's finally up on GH

sent from my chess board

The approval system on GH is piss annoying. Doesn't even make sense because GH doesn't take responsibility for the deals Oo .

Chyros wrote: The approval system on GH is piss annoying. Doesn't even make sense because GH doesn't take responsibility for the deals Oo .

Another reason why I do not use GH.

Chyros wrote: Doesn't even make sense because GH doesn't take responsibility for the deals Oo .

This, more than anything else.

kbdfr wrote:

chuckdee wrote: Can't you program the layout to something that would help you? […]

That would imply that there are more than just 26 alpha keys like in this design.
Accented letters and/or other diacritics are not just accasional in most languages, but full-fledged characters. As an example, in French the frequency of é is higher than even g and even à is more frequent than k, so that it would seem rational for a French keyboard with only 26 alpha keys to have é rather than g and à rather than k - but of course you will still need (but have no place for) g and k.

Trying to reduce the number of keys of a keyboard (at least to that point) is a merely aesthetical exercise which has clear negative impact on its usability.

You use layers for that. Not as convenient, for sure. But you have to make some sort of trade-off to get a smaller size. And this smaller size might not necessarily be for aesthetic purposes, but for some need.

I was apologized to for the tardiness. Shit happens. I'm not really that upset about it or anything.

sent from my chess board

chuckdee wrote:

kbdfr wrote: [Long explanation about diacritics use in most languages]

Trying to reduce the number of keys of a keyboard (at least to that point) is a merely aesthetical exercise which has clear negative impact on its usability.

You use layers for that. Not as convenient, for sure. But you have to make some sort of trade-off to get a smaller size. And this smaller size might not necessarily be for aesthetic purposes, but for some need.

Apparently English users cannot even grasp that it is not just a matter of convenience
Imagine you would have even less keys and hence all vowels on a second layer. Would it be just "not convenient"?

I would be curious which "need" can justify sacrificing full-fledged letters (which is what diacritics are) to have a keyboard that small.

kbdfr wrote:

chuckdee wrote:

kbdfr wrote: [Long explanation about diacritics use in most languages]

Trying to reduce the number of keys of a keyboard (at least to that point) is a merely aesthetical exercise which has clear negative impact on its usability.

You use layers for that. Not as convenient, for sure. But you have to make some sort of trade-off to get a smaller size. And this smaller size might not necessarily be for aesthetic purposes, but for some need.

Apparently English users cannot even grasp that it is not just a matter of convenience
Imagine you would have even less keys and hence all vowels on a second layer. Would it be just "not convenient"?

I would be curious which "need" can justify sacrificing full-fledged letters (which is what diacritics are) to have a keyboard that small.

I totally grasp that. I just don't think that you grasp that allowances need to be made for less keys.

/me shrugs

I have a keyboard on my phone that only has 12 keys. It is a sacrifice to be able to press the keys instead of having to deal with the fat-finger syndrome. Is it inconvenient? Yes. But does it get around the problem? Yes.

It really depends on what you're doing. And so I don't allow my needs and willingness to sacrifice to spill over into thinking that all think the same way I do, which I think is a better approach to take.

Yet, it is still a great looking keyboard, if someone must pay the price for beauty, it is entirely beyond the logic of a keyboard, a mechanical one in particular, whose main function is to free the PC user from the jail imposed by rubber domes, or soft keyboards; thus, this is exactly in the opposite side of the equation, it is a mechanical keyboard trying to be something closer to a phone keyboard, it is against its own nature. I am glad that I have to write in Spanish besides English, that gives me the chance to experience the diacritics and characters beyond ASCII set, that gives me sensibility that otherwise I might have lost since years ago.

for all of you who have joined this GB i want to say thank you. I will be starting the invoicing process later today/tonight