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Oooh yeah, you'd practically need that to put Granite on an AT101W or any other bigfoot models.

ohaimark wrote: Oooh yeah, you'd practically need that to put Granite on an AT101W or any other bigfoot models.

Its almost sacrilege to say as the original caps are so nice, but they would look amazing on a SGI bigfoot

In fact i have one, i think i am going to get some matias liners in there and a 101 set for it.

guys, this is Granite on Alps. Anything that was in Granite should be available in the Alps version. This also means that SP doesn't have ISO enter for DSA, we always used DCS for that.

Is there an ergodox set?

should be all here http://matt3o.com/granite-turns-4/ apart the elven kit everything else should be pretty much there

Great, thanks a lot!

Thanks for the great news, matt3o

I doubt there will be a second run, so if you are interested you better join as soon as the set goes live.

Do you know when it will be available or a guesstimate?

they told me that it is in production right now, so I'd say within a month

And i just finished removing the tactile'ness from my dell AT102W !

What timing .

Prob would pick up a 101 ANSI set too and a mixed bag of mods.

Sign me up even though I still haven't find alps I like.

Hopefully this doesn't run in parallel with GMK Yuri because I want one of those as well and I just bought the tty set.

Btw, never said thanks for adding that row3 \| so thaaaaanks !

Did you try simple black alps with the tactile parts removed ?

If they are clean they are better than any cherry or its clones. And they sound fantastic.

No I haven't, I'll give it a try. I got a NIB Wang I'm itching to use but those black alps are killing me.

take the tactile parts out


black alps are bloody fantastic when you do that


you can always put em back in

andrewjoy wrote:they are better than any cherry or its clones.

Not sure about that. Good vintage blacks will always be better than alps linears.

Get out, heathen.

Although then I will have 2 DSA Granite set (1 for MX and this new set for Alps), I am still very glad that such a versatile and carefully designed set will be available for Alps switches.
Finally SP is doing it!

mike52787 wrote:

andrewjoy wrote:they are better than any cherry or its clones.

Not sure about that. Good vintage blacks will always be better than alps linears.

Disagreed. Even if you consider the smoothness on equal level (which is debatable) the weighting on vintage blacks is much too stiff, at least for me.

Chyros wrote:the weighting on vintage blacks is much too stiff, at least for me.

Again, just like switch choice, it is subjective. but properly tuned vintage blacks with a lighter spring are the best linear switches ever made IMO

mike52787 wrote:

Chyros wrote:the weighting on vintage blacks is much too stiff, at least for me.

... properly tuned vintage blacks with a lighter spring ...

Sounds delicious but seems to involve lots of work.
As a newcomer for switch-tuning who doesn't even know what "properly" means, I will go with the easy out-of-the-box choice: currently Gateron blacks.
I have high hope for the revised new Cherry blacks, denied by Cherry as their new revision.

I have NOS Alps SKCL greens too - although not as nice as their tactile counterparts, they are quite nice, but finding caps is a trouble, finding PCB is a trouble, finding plate is a trouble, desoldering from the boards has some moral conflict for me and some not for all; using the older board as is has some a converter trouble on top of the layout adaptation trouble.
I have yet to give Matias' switches another chance, I hope Matias switches are pines and not bamboos though - I never have any good experience with bamboos --- tactile Alps SKCM pines > MX clears/zealious/ergoclear >>>>>> tactile Alps bamboos.
Reconsider the Alps pines design pleeeeeeease, Mr. Matias, our only hope for Alps switches in the modern days.
(Oopss it's not Matias' thread, lol xD)

Sounds very similar. Matt3o is the lifesaver for Alps users to have designed and convinced SP to produce such an Alps set.

Profiles? I suppose Granite will be DSA. What about other forthcoming sets?

Menuhin wrote: I have yet to give Matias' switches another chance, I hope Matias switches are pines and not bamboos though - I never have any good experience with bamboos …

Matias switches are neither. "Pine" and "bamboo" are in effect generations of SKCL/SKCM switches, and Matias switches are a clone of SKBM.

It appears that SKBL/SKBM is classified as "plum" (the final grade in the Japanese pine/bamboo/plum system), but this sentence from MouseFan is not conducive to machine translation, and I can't determine the significance of the year 2000:

"上ハウジングにスリットのある初期型を「松」スリットが無いのを「竹」、以降2000年までの簡易軸「梅」と呼んでいます"

http://mousefan.telcontar.net/alpsk.htm#chronology

Hypersphere wrote: Profiles? I suppose Granite will be DSA. What about other forthcoming sets?

you guys are hard to please

If you could do an ALPS version of MT3 it’d be so great!

Flink wrote: If you could do an ALPS version of MT3 it’d be so great!

please no, think of my wallet

Any updates?

Oh man. Thanks for the heads up matt3o, I would open my otherwise sealed wallet for these.

Patiently waiting for my money to be taken. Still no whisper of this set on pimpmykeyboard.

waldorf120 wrote: Patiently waiting for my money to be taken. Still no whisper of this set on pimpmykeyboard.

It finally popped up

I wonder if these will have the same issues as the Lightcycle set. When I tried to throw them on my Minivan they were way, way too tight and I clumsily broke a few stems when trying to remove them.

Devkey wrote: I wonder if these will have the same issues as the Lightcycle set. When I tried to throw them on my Minivan they were way, way too tight and I clumsily broke a few stems when trying to remove them.

pretty sure it's the same mold

matt3o wrote:

Devkey wrote: I wonder if these will have the same issues as the Lightcycle set. When I tried to throw them on my Minivan they were way, way too tight and I clumsily broke a few stems when trying to remove them.

pretty sure it's the same mold

So what’s the official recommendation when using Matias switches?