deskthority

Bit rot shouldn't be happening in this day and age. Not on open internet forums with a viable user base. But at GH, for whatever reason, it still does. Good stuff just goes away.

As far as I am aware, we haven't lost anything since the site was relaunched last year. Prior to that, there were some pretty big disasters the history of which has been recorded elsewhere. If you believe otherwise, let me know and I will look into it.

It's honestly a relief to hear this acknowledged.

You're quite right: I haven't evidence of this happening especially recently. I just stumble into dead links and broken attachments when deep down some trail of interest, and curse my luck yet again. That kind of scar tissue must have been left by pretty big disasters, all right. Good to hear a line in the sand has been drawn. Community content loss is in no one's best interest.

since ripster left the wiki hasn't really been the same.


...just sayin..

Yeah, many threads on GH look basically like this:
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Post 1: Does anyone know anything about the XYZ keyboard phenomenon?
Post 2: Not really, but have a look into the wiki: [dead link]
Post 3: Yeah, I'd like to know about the XYZ keyboard phenomenon too. Here's a picture: [attachment not working]
Post 4 by OP: Thanks ripster, that's all I wanted to know about XYZ. This can be closed.
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Meanwhile on Deskthority:
>> No posts were found because the word XYZ is not contained in any post. <<

Muirium wrote:It's honestly a relief to hear this acknowledged.

You're quite right: I haven't evidence of this happening especially recently. I just stumble into dead links and broken attachments when deep down some trail of interest, and curse my luck yet again. That kind of scar tissue must have been left by pretty big disasters, all right. Good to hear a line in the sand has been drawn. Community content loss is in no one's best interest.

The loss of all pre-r00tworm attachments was very unfortunate.

Halvar wrote:>> No posts were found because the word XYZ is not contained in any post. <<

DT is much younger. But still, pah!

dirge wrote:since ripster left the wiki hasn't really been the same.


...just sayin..

The GH wiki was always crap. Some articles had interesting and informative content, but was hard to find.

7bit wrote:

dirge wrote:since ripster left the wiki hasn't really been the same.


...just sayin..

The GH wiki was always crap. Some articles had interesting and informative content, but was hard to find.

Not that crap actually.

http://wiki.geekhack.org/index.php?title=Cherry_MX_Red

Nice photo, but they don't have the inofficial switch of the year 2012 in their wiki: MX lock!

Cherry MX Locks are a linear locking switch.

Feel free to use my description, GH wiki editors, but please cite me in your references!

Halvar wrote:Yeah, many threads on GH look basically like this:
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Post 1: Does anyone know anything about the XYZ keyboard phenomenon?
Post 2: Not really, but have a look into the wiki: [dead link]
Post 3: Yeah, I'd like to know about the XYZ keyboard phenomenon too. Here's a picture: [attachment not working]
Post 4 by OP: Thanks ripster, that's all I wanted to know about XYZ. This can be closed.
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Meanwhile on Deskthority:
>> No posts were found because the word XYZ is not contained in any post. <<

Yeah that is pretty much it, the Wiki is like totally gone.. dead links everywhere I can barely find the good old stuff where people build really nice stuff. I wouldn't blame GH for the broken pictures, many of them are hostet on sites like Flickr, imgur etz. it's a common problem that those sites put this pictures down after a certain time.

And I liked the old GH look more tbh

cookie wrote:And I liked the old GH look more tbh

If you are referring to the theme, try "Nostalgia".

When switching to "Nostalgia" will my posts be visible again?

7bit wrote:When switching to "Nostalgia" will my posts be visible again?

What posts are you missing?

Please buy Cherry MX clears more expensive here:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=439 ... #msg905136


ps: rumors say these are being delivered within 1-2 weeks.

iMav seems to have misplaced all my posts.

webwit wrote:iMav seems to have misplaced all my posts.

Those are really missing.

I liked the keyboardporn pictures most!

2 photos made in quick succession:
One with Trotsky still alive and a 2nd photo after Stalin pushed Trotsky into the Moskva.

7bit wrote:Please buy Cherry MX clears more expensive here:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=439 ... #msg905136


ps: rumors say these are being delivered within 1-2 weeks.

I can return your post here, if you'd like.

webwit wrote:iMav seems to have misplaced all my posts.

Fixed point in time. So sorry....

I switched to Nostalgia now, but DT is still better imo

One of the best things about DT's look is people's signatures are hidden unless you hit their name.

Recurring slabs of text stuck into the conversation just look wrong to me. Way better off with the clean style here.

Mind, just because our site looks clean doesn't mean we won't threadcrap! Aka. free speech.

What is amazing is that when you tell someone in the Classifieds that his prices are way high than they should be because of the past recent sales of some items they took it personally and don't believe you or don't want to low the price. Which personally I don't care because they're not going to sell them.

An example:

Deskthority - Last two sets of ISO Dye Sub were sold in the Marketplace for 40€ each one.

Geekhack - Two sets are been sold now for 210USD each one.

Ebay.de - You can find Cherry keyboards with ISO Dye Sub for something between 20-50€.

It's obnviously that the market price dictates those sets are not worth more than the Deskthority or Ebay.de price.

Why would the GH moderation not allow people to warn that their stuff are being sold for too high price? Do they really want that we shut up our mouth so someone can make free money off other users?

It's nothing personal against anyone but I don't like that kind of censorhip. This is just an example and the user didn't get angry at me but he doesn't low the price which means he won't sell the sets to anyone.

guilleguillaume wrote:but he doesn't low the price which means he won't sell the sets to anyone.

If that was always so, there wouldn't be a problem. But like you listed above, sometimes things do sell for the kind of crazy inflated price <<SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!>> that causes the kind of comments / "threadcrapping" we're talking about.

By silencing comments, sellers are able to restrict the information available to buyers. Plenty of buyers are, naturally, well researched and know to ignore these listings. But there are always less well informed buyers out there, and they are the ones who fall for bad deals which look on the surface to be perfectly ordinary, because no one's saying anything!

Free markets require free flow of information. And free markets are fair markets. (Now where did I put my flame suit?)

I honestly don't know why GH has the rules it does. The rule about threadcrapping is especially biased. If we were talking about some commercial site which took a cut of every sale, this kind of fiddling would make sense. But we're not, so I suppose it just comes down to a community preference to restrict price fights and ungentlemanly mercantilism in another chap's storefront.

Caveat emptor. Especially when no one's there to help you. They're thrown into oblivion when they try.

It's pretty common for older forums to make their rules so that generally their long time regulars profit from them at the expense of newbies / non-regulars. I know this from other forums, and I can understand this general approach, it does make sense in some ways. It's a question of the right measure.

Of course if the rules make moderators come to the help of sellers ripping off newbies, this approach has been taken way too far.

@guilleguillaume

I think ISO dyesubs are more frequent than ANSI dyesubs and same time you have more potential interest for the ANSI keys than for the ISO keys. So different price tags are little bit reasonable to me.

@BimbooBB: I agree, GHers are mostly not interested in German layouts ...

BimboBB wrote:@guilleguillaume

I think ISO dyesubs are more frequent than ANSI dyesubs and same time you have more potential interest for the ANSI keys than for the ISO keys. So different price tags are little bit reasonable to me.

Shhhht!


You are threadcrapping!


You must not tell details which spoil guilleguillaume's argumentation!

Naah...no threadcrappping here! I just helped guilleguillaume to sell some ISO dyesubs to our fellow friends from geekhack who are sick of paying for overprized ANSI stuff.