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Posted: 28 Oct 2013, 08:42
by Daniel
mintberryminuscrunch wrote:http://www.ebay.de/itm/Michael-Schumach ... 1156446985
supposedly new/unused
This keyboard is now at 231€! :shock: :o

But just look at the bidding history: http://offer.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?V ... 1156446985

Re: Great/Interesting Finds (GH has one why not us!?!?!)

Posted: 28 Oct 2013, 09:11
by Josh
Daniel wrote:
mintberryminuscrunch wrote:http://www.ebay.de/itm/Michael-Schumach ... 1156446985
supposedly new/unused
This keyboard is now at 231€! :shock: :o

But just look at the bidding history: http://offer.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?V ... 1156446985
how much u think it wort?
:D

Posted: 28 Oct 2013, 09:41
by Daniel
If you want German Doubleshots you can buy a used Raptor Gaming K1 and use the missing keys from an ANSI set (e.g. MY 7000). In both cases, wether you buy the G81 Michael Schumacher Fan Edition or the Raptor Gaming K1, you will still lack the keycaps for the bottom row. So from my point of view there isn't much reason to spent that much money on the G81 in the auction, unless you really want the German versions of Insert, Delete, Home etc..
I wouldn't pay more than 50€ for this board.

Posted: 28 Oct 2013, 09:49
by 002
How much would you pay if you had the hots for Schuey though? ;)

Posted: 28 Oct 2013, 10:08
by kbdfr
Daniel wrote:[…] But just look at the bidding history: http://offer.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?V ... 1156446985
One has to go a step farther and click on the code of the suspicious bidder (here e***e). eBay then discloses a "Bid history: Details" page showing in which categories the bidder placed bids in the last 30 days, and more interesting: with which different sellers. Here e***e clearly placed bids only for auctions of the same seller:
Bid history: Details for e***e

In other words: if h***n hadn't engaged in a bidding war (in this case with an obviously fake bidder), the price would still be around 20€ or so.

Posted: 28 Oct 2013, 10:12
by Halvar
Some collectors (of Schumi devotionalia or of keyboards) might think of the whole keyboard as worthy of collection -- after all, there weren't too many of them made, and only for a short time, and the ones that showed up on ebay during the last years were probably all mercilessly cannibalized for their keycaps... ;)

e***e seems to be a shill bidder of course. And h***n must be somewhat inexperienced... :?

Posted: 28 Oct 2013, 21:44
by Josh
Halvar wrote:Some collectors (of Schumi devotionalia or of keyboards) might think of the whole keyboard as worthy of collection -- after all, there weren't too many of them made, and only for a short time, and the ones that showed up on ebay during the last years were probably all mercilessly cannibalized for their keycaps... ;)

e***e seems to be a shill bidder of course. And h***n must be somewhat inexperienced... :?
now the bid is ended
seems that h***n found that the e***e is a shill bidder
I think he reported the seller and the seller canceled the order

Posted: 28 Oct 2013, 23:49
by Daniel
He relisted the keyboard: http://www.ebay.de/itm/171160735721

Posted: 29 Oct 2013, 00:26
by Josh
Daniel wrote:He relisted the keyboard: http://www.ebay.de/itm/171160735721
yea..maybe the fake bidder will show up again

Posted: 29 Oct 2013, 15:28
by mintberryminuscrunch

Posted: 29 Oct 2013, 15:34
by BimboBB
That datalux has ML switches, right? :?

Posted: 29 Oct 2013, 18:24
by Kurk
BimboBB wrote:That datalux has ML switches, right? :?
MEI switches. Horrible.
The caps fit on MX stems but they are only 75% (vertical) of the height of normal MX caps.
Some pics of my Datalux: http://deskthority.net/photos-videos-f8 ... t3974.html

Posted: 30 Oct 2013, 00:13
by Daniel Beardsmore
BimboBB wrote:That datalux has ML switches, right? :?
The original MEI Microtype Space-Saver Keyboard had MEI switches. Current Datalux Spacesaver keyboards have ML switches. It's not known when they made the switch.

Also, that's the first time I've seen a product code where the fourth character is anything but 'U'. If we assume that most SpaceSaver keyboards are US English, it may be that the 'U' is for US English, and the 'G' in the one on eBay is for German.

Posted: 03 Nov 2013, 12:34
by 002

Posted: 03 Nov 2013, 13:03
by Muirium
Makes you wonder what shipping would be like on those, and how hard it would be to work with Japanese language private sellers.

Posted: 03 Nov 2013, 13:09
by 002
Honestly if you use buyee or something you don't even need to know any Japanese.
Regarding shipping, the estimator on buyee's website comes out to about 20,000 yen for shipping to Europe which is ~150 EUR. I keep forgetting though that you poor buggers get bent over the barrel big time by customs...

Posted: 03 Nov 2013, 14:39
by mbodrov
Unlike Ebay, you have to pay a monthly fee to use Yahu-Oku (auctions.yahoo.co.jp) as a buyer. For that, you need a credit card issued by a bank in Japan, because when you try to add a credit card to your account, your street address in Japanese is a required field and non-Japanese credit cards don't have that. (They flat-out reject any address you try to enter in roman characters.) That's even before you start running into any issues related to paying your sellers. So, yeah, they're pretty well protected against foreigners.

Posted: 03 Nov 2013, 14:51
by 002
What you say is true, but there are easy ways around it.
The simplest of which is buyee.jp. No monthly fees, no need to know Japanese, no need for a Japanese bank account or card. I've used the service probably 5 or 6 times now without a problem. Before that I was using another proxy service with reasonable rates but not as automated as buyee.

Posted: 03 Nov 2013, 15:37
by Muirium
When looking at the HHKB auctions you linked, the banners even led to Buyeewith the appropriate item loaded. Nice. But I've still no idea about shipping and taxes (on used goods?) which are always the highlight of our governmental spanking sessions here in Europe!

Posted: 03 Nov 2013, 22:09
by mintberryminuscrunch

Posted: 05 Nov 2013, 09:40
by Broadmonkey
Goupil Golf. It's a bit pricey, but looks to be in a good condition. If you didn't know, it has a 18xx keyboard with special case and different from standard colored DS key caps.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Goupil-Golf-V ... 1c37be2dae
Here is IvanIvanovichs post about it.

Posted: 05 Nov 2013, 18:05
by tinnie

Posted: 05 Nov 2013, 18:16
by kbdfr
I had wondered if someone would post it :mrgreen:
Quote from the text: "Cherry Model G80-0662H"
http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_G80-0662

Posted: 05 Nov 2013, 22:55
by Halvar
Look at this input device extraordinaire:

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Design-Ikone-Sch ... 3f2b331451

Posted: 05 Nov 2013, 23:31
by pasph

Posted: 06 Nov 2013, 18:54
by Josh

Posted: 06 Nov 2013, 18:57
by BimboBB
nice rubberdome! :?

Posted: 06 Nov 2013, 19:06
by Halvar
pasph wrote:
Halvar wrote:Look at this input device extraordinaire:

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Design-Ikone-Sch ... 3f2b331451
Do you really like it?
I don't know -- I think an electrical keyboard from the 1960s is a pretty extraordinary thing. Most of what we call "vintage keyboards" nowadays is from the 80's or 90's. In 1993, this typewriter was already as old as an IBM Model M is today ...

Posted: 08 Nov 2013, 00:17
by strafe
ICL Terminal, couldn't find any information about it after a quick google serach, but it looks nice :D

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Working-ICL- ... 1312183123

Posted: 08 Nov 2013, 00:35
by Muirium
Oh, I've seen one of those. (Same museum as the Sirius S1.)
ICL.jpg
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It's a nice chocolate beige colour scheme. And random ass linear, as I recall! But I should really clean it up and take better pictures, including upturned caps and the switches. This one has space between the numpad and the main alpha block, while the eBay model doesn't, but they're closely related I bet.