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Posted: 01 Apr 2013, 00:54
by sth
jabar wrote:
hsu wrote:There is a flipside: we will have fucking amazing spherical keycaps!

[Off-topic: why no love for keycaps in Topre world?]
SP doesn't have Topre tooling. Could be lack of demand considering Topre has no industry presence in the US.
the topre keymount is patented afaik

Posted: 01 Apr 2013, 01:09
by jabar
sth wrote:
jabar wrote:
hsu wrote:There is a flipside: we will have fucking amazing spherical keycaps!

[Off-topic: why no love for keycaps in Topre world?]
SP doesn't have Topre tooling. Could be lack of demand considering Topre has no industry presence in the US.
the topre keymount is patented afaik
there is that too. patents don't last forever though, so I didn't comment on that possibility since that switch style has been around a while

Re: AW: Round 4 / in production / leftovers for sale!

Posted: 01 Apr 2013, 14:26
by mintberryminuscrunch
jabar wrote:
sth wrote:
jabar wrote: SP doesn't have Topre tooling. Could be lack of demand considering Topre has no industry presence in the US.
the topre keymount is patented afaik
there is that too. patents don't last forever though, so I didn't comment on that possibility since that switch style has been around a while
The way patent laws are twisted don't bet on it

Posted: 01 Apr 2013, 15:05
by blighty
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41637.0
R4 hasn't finished yet, but there is an interest check on GH to rerun just the Retro R4 caps, but only as ANSI and TKL. Curious what fellow R4 participants think of this? My only thought was "what a bunch of impatient asshats." As if sets won't start showing up in market/classifed at inflated prices once R4 concludes. Or am I not seeing the bigger picture?

Posted: 01 Apr 2013, 17:28
by yeeeargh
i think there is no problem, because they put it on hold till this group buy is done. at least they are waiting for a reply from 7bit before they proceed.
Still waiting on 7bit. As soon as I hear from him I am going to start the GB.

Posted: 01 Apr 2013, 17:54
by blighty
The only reason they are on "hold" is they need 7bit's permission to use his legends. The lad trying to rerun it didn't know he needed permission at first. I think the guy's attitude about it is what pisses me off, like he's entitled to it. Or how I perceive GB mentalities in general these days. /rant

Posted: 02 Apr 2013, 00:35
by jabar
blighty wrote:Or how I perceive GH mentalities in general these days. /rant
ftfy

Posted: 02 Apr 2013, 01:50
by blighty
jabar wrote:
blighty wrote:Or how I perceive GH mentalities in general these days. /rant
ftfy
LOL, yeah.

Posted: 02 Apr 2013, 10:33
by zulios
These GB organizers should remember that the people ordering in R4 paid for legend fees, tooling etc.
Therefore, it would seem fair to me if they could include a small fee to help cover 7bit's money loss.

Posted: 02 Apr 2013, 21:16
by 7bit
JSchool wrote:He's in Bermuda, building a mansion out of our keycaps.
What makes you think I spent the money for key caps?
:evilgeek:

Posted: 03 Apr 2013, 02:35
by blighty
Just go ahead!

Almost everything is sold out, so no problem for me if you start a new group buy.

:-)
When did Germans start being so nice? I swear the last time I was in Warszawa (Poland), the locals talked up how you guys were evil pricks! :twisted:
It must come from having such a sexy Chancellor.
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She puts my former favorite world leader to shame:
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Anyway, hopefully R4 pops before their GB gets run (If only to make the 100 or so orders of the RETRO kit feel better)
:D

Posted: 03 Apr 2013, 12:08
by yeeeargh
pretty sure the percentual amount of pricks in germany is quite the same as in every other country. same goes for the percentages of nice guys.

Posted: 03 Apr 2013, 23:53
by sth
blighty wrote:She puts my former favorite world leader to shame:
thatcher.jpg
ಠ_ಠ

Posted: 04 Apr 2013, 00:19
by hottrout
sth wrote:ಠ_ಠ
Now theres a keycap ;)


Just on the offchance, does anyone feel like selling me a full UK set of sphericals at this late stage?

Posted: 04 Apr 2013, 10:01
by aggiejy
I added a couple white on yellow 1.25x mods to my (paid) order. The amount due is 1.62, but the invoice says

"Please order more to make it worth to do another payment!!!!"

Only problem is I'm not sure there's much of anything left that I could use. :)

Posted: 04 Apr 2013, 10:06
by 7bit
If you get this message, just don't pay.
:-)

The reason is that it would be too expensive to pay such a small amount by PayPal.

Posted: 04 Apr 2013, 23:09
by Acanthophis
Payment/"shipping" update

Post-post-Closing/Leftovers/??? payment from bnp70kr (2013-04-02,yy-mm-dd) has been received and marked as shipped for PP (although we all know that we are looking at SP finishing the production mid February 2013 (read: never), then caps being shipped for sorting, then shipped to their final destination, i.e. you). That is to avoid PP account lock ups, that they like to do. Invoices may or may not reflect the change, but they will. Please keep in mind I only account for payments made to me via paypal.
Note: Addresses on the Paypal invoices are not the addresses 7bit uses to ship your keycaps to. He uses whatever address that is listed on your invoice.

Posted: 07 Apr 2013, 11:53
by i488
one of my friends who had been waiting for this group buy just passed away.
joking

Posted: 07 Apr 2013, 14:46
by hsu
It's sunday, and I'm thinking about ma keycaps.
not joking!

Posted: 07 Apr 2013, 16:25
by grik
Me too, from time to time i wonder if they will ever arrive.

What is the estimated ETA at this time?

Posted: 08 Apr 2013, 01:59
by huttala
grik wrote:Me too, from time to time i wonder if they will ever arrive.

What is the estimated ETA at this time?
At the end of May......... 2034!

Posted: 08 Apr 2013, 03:07
by JSchool
You're quite the optimist.

Posted: 08 Apr 2013, 03:46
by jabar
why does SP delay this continuously... it's not a huge order for them but they ought to have established a deadline from the get-go instead of a whenever, floating due date.

e: this is more of an observation not a complaint, most have waited longer than I have for R4

Posted: 08 Apr 2013, 11:21
by 7bit
Not a huge order? I'm quite sure it is the hugest ever!

It is not so much the quantity of key caps, but the quantity of different size/row/legend/color combinations.

BTW: Rumors say, they already shipped them ...
:shock:

Posted: 08 Apr 2013, 11:32
by matt3o
7bit wrote:BTW: Rumors say, they already shipped them ...
:shock:
are you F)@&@&^K kidding me?!

this is great!

Re: Round 4 / in production / leftovers for sale!

Posted: 08 Apr 2013, 11:44
by megnin
I'm checking my mailbox every half hour now. ;)

Posted: 08 Apr 2013, 12:20
by BimboBB
:o

did they made some photos of the SA production?

Posted: 08 Apr 2013, 12:38
by 7bit
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Posted: 08 Apr 2013, 12:42
by matt3o
I really wish I could grab some of those sphericals...

Posted: 08 Apr 2013, 12:50
by 7bit

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Sphericals
SPH/SPACEUNI                |  38|  1|1 left      |   $4|7 units (SA-family only!)
SPH/SPACEUNI/BLUE           |  17|  1|2 left      |   $4|7 units (SA-family only!)
SPH/SPACEUNI/VIOLETT        |   9|  1|5 left      |   $4|7 units (SA-family only!)
SPH/LOTUSESC                |  33|  1|1 left      |   $2|Lotus key (1    unit,  row 3)
SPH/LOTUS125                |  17|  1|3 left      |   $2|Lotus key (1.25 units, row 3)

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Round 3
ROUND3/SPACENEW/GREY        |   5|  1|9 left      |  $12|6 units (114;38,57)
ROUND3/FR                   |   3| 30|4 left      |  $28|French language kit
ROUND3/PT                   |   3| 21|1 left      |  $24|Portuguese language kit
ROUND3/MUSIC/ORANGE         |   6| 12|1 left      |  $24|Music Function kit

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Retro
RETRO/SPACENEW              |   6|  1|5 left      |  $12|6 units (114;38,57)
RETRO/SPACEOLD/RED          |   5|  1|2 left      |   $6|7 units Cherry no Windows
RETRO/ES                    |   2| 24|1 left      |  $24|Spanish language kit
RETRO/DVORAK                |   2| 25|2 left      |  $32|Dvorak language kit

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Noir
NOIR/SPACENEW               |   9|  1|5 left      |  $12|6 units (114;38,57)
NOIR/FR                     |   2| 31|3 left      |  $16|French language kit
NOIR/UK                     |   2|  7|1 left      |  $16|UK language kit
NOIR/DVORAK                 |   4| 25|1 left      |  $24|Dvorak language kit
NOIR/PHANTOMESC             |  37|  1|1 left      |   $2|Phantom Escape (1 unit, row 1)

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Blanks (ABS)
BLANK/R1U100/BLACK          |  13|  1|1 left      | $1.2|Blank 1 unit key (row 1 / Function row)
BLANK/R3U175/BLACK          |   5|  1|2 left      |   $4|Blank 1.75 units (row 3 / ASDFGH row)
BLANK/R4U150/BLACK          |  10|  1|1 left      |   $3|Blank 1.5  units (row 4 / ZXCVBN row)
BLANK/R4U200H/BLACK         |   5|  1|2 left      |   $4|Blank 2 units horizontal (row 4)
BLANK/R3U225/VERYDARKGREY   |   1|  1|6 left      |   $5|Blank 2.25 units (row 3, Return)
BLANK/R4U200H/VERYDARKGREY  |   1|  1|6 left      |   $4|Blank 2 units horizontal (row 4)
BLANK/R4U200V/VERYDARKGREY  |   2|  1|5 left      |   $3|Blank 2 units vertical (row 4)
BLANK/R4U275/VERYDARKGREY   |   3|  1|4 left      |   $5|Blank 2.75 units (row 4, Shift right)
BLANK/SPACEOLD/CLEAR        |   4|  1|3 left      |   $5|7 units Cherry no Windows
BLANK/R3U200V/LIGHTGREY     |   6|  1|1 left      |   $4|Blank 2 units vertical (row 3)
BLANK/R4U225/LIGHTGREY      |   3|  1|4 left      |   $6|Blank 2.25 units (row 4, Shift left)
BLANK/R4U225/VERYDARKGREY   |   5|  1|2 left      |   $3|Blank 2.25 units (row 4, Shift left)
BLANK/R4U275/LIGHTGREY      |   5|  1|2 left      |   $6|Blank 2.75 units (row 4, Shift right)
BLANK/R1U125/BLACK          |   4|  1|3 left      |   $4|Blank 1.25 units (row 1 / Function row)
BLANK/R4U275/CLEAR          |   1|  1|6 left      |   $8|Blank 2.75 units (row 4, Shift right)
BLANK/R1U200H/VERYDARKGREY  |   1|  1|6 left      |   $5|Blank 2 units horizontal (row 1)
BLANK/R3U175/VERYDARKGREY   |   1|  1|6 left      |   $5|Blank 1.75 unit key (row 3 / ASDFGH row) 
BLANK/R1U100/LIGHTGREY      |   1|  1|3 left      | $1.5|Blank 1 unit key (row 1 / QWERTY row) 

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Blanks (sphericals)
BLANKSPH/R4U175/SPHBLUE     |   6|  1|1 left      |   $3|Blank 1.75 units (row 4 / ZXCVBN row)
BLANKSPH/R3U175/SPHBLUE     |   4|  1|3 left      |   $3|Blank 1.75 units (row 3 / ASDFGH row)

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Single kits
DIAMONDWY125                |  13|  1|37 left     |$0.78|White on Yellow Diamond (row 4)
DIAMONDBY125                |  11|  1|189 left    |$0.78|Black on Yellow Diamond (row 4)
DIAMONDBY100                |  13|  1|37 left     |$0.65|Black on Yellow Diamond (row 4)