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Posted: 08 Mar 2014, 21:23
by PoisonHeadcrab
Wavefront wrote:My keyboard should arrive next week and now that the order and payment and all the stuff for these caps are finalized, I can safely say:
I'M SO EXCITED
Hey, my keyboard arrives next week too!
Bought me a Ducky Shine 3 (Full Size, MX Blues, White LED) to go along with these awesome caps. (Or rather the caps to go along with the keyboard? Hmm, I'm not sure which...)
Posted: 08 Mar 2014, 21:43
by AlexJP
7bit
How can i have my shipping tracked?
Posted: 08 Mar 2014, 21:49
by Muirium
matt3o wrote:ilezia wrote:Wavefront wrote:I'M SO EXCITED
AND I JUST CANT HIDE IT DI DI DI DI DIII DIII
I'm about to lose control and I think I like it!
Oh no! Which size do you need? You can hardly have a keyboard without CONTROL.
PoisonHeadcrab wrote:Hey, my keyboard arrives next week too!
Bought me a Ducky Shine 3 (Full Size, MX Blues, White LED) to go along with these awesome caps. (Or rather the caps to go along with the keyboard? Hmm, I'm not sure which...)
Backlighting, eh? You know they'll look like this…

I like it. But it's certainly not the usual backlight experience.
Posted: 08 Mar 2014, 22:24
by PoisonHeadcrab
Muirium wrote:
Backlighting, eh? You know they'll look like this…
I like it. But it's certainly not the usual backlight experience.
I know.
It's mostly your review of that yellow Ducky Shine and the pictures with the Round 4 keys on it, that made me think the bleeding light might not look that bad after all...
And even if I wouldn't like it, from what I've heard the Ducky is a good keyboard regardless of the backlighting.
Posted: 08 Mar 2014, 22:39
by 7bit
AlexJP wrote:7bit
How can i have my shipping tracked?
Send
SHIPTRACKED
to 7bot.
ps: You can take your ball off, now that you paid!

Posted: 08 Mar 2014, 22:50
by Muirium
PoisonHeadcrab wrote:It's mostly your review of that yellow Ducky Shine and the pictures with the Round 4 keys on it, that made me think the bleeding light might not look that bad after all...
And even if I wouldn't like it, from what I've heard the Ducky is a good keyboard regardless of the backlighting.
Definitely. The Ducky's a fair wee beast. And the tradeoff between these caps and a backlight is hardly a contest at all. Round 4s really raise it to being one of my favourite keyboards, especially for long sessions. That and the MX reds!
I have a red set of Round 5s lined up for this yellow duck…
7bit wrote:ps: You can take your ball off, now that you paid!

But it's so fetching on her!
Posted: 09 Mar 2014, 00:32
by lefthandedspatula
A REMINDER:
If you're going to
increase quantity of something, DO NOT SEND IT AS IF YOU'RE MODIFYING, SEND IT AS IF YOU'RE ORDERING MORE.
For example, if you've already bought
And you want 2 more, DO NOT send it like:
Send it INSTEAD as:
Posted: 09 Mar 2014, 00:51
by farinasa_
I removed TKL/BASE/RED and added TKL/RED, is this ok?
Posted: 09 Mar 2014, 01:14
by 7bit
@lefthandedspatula: Yes, thanks for mentioning this.
You can add orders, but can't modifiy the locked anymore.
Posted: 09 Mar 2014, 01:58
by Veebers
What's the minimum I can pay via PayPal? I want to add tracking but it's only $3. Perhaps I can increase the amount of something that I've already ordered to bring it up to the minimum?
Posted: 09 Mar 2014, 02:01
by 7bit
Just order it and do only pay if the bot tells you so.
The time until the key caps will be delivered is quite long, so you might order some more keys or some switches etc...

Posted: 09 Mar 2014, 02:13
by Veebers
Ah cool, thanks 7bit.
Just to confirm, I can only increase the amount of items I've already ordered, not add any more right?
Posted: 09 Mar 2014, 02:15
by snoopy
Can I have my keys now? I don't want to wait.
I will send SENDKEYSNOW to 7bot, hope that works.
Posted: 09 Mar 2014, 02:50
by farinasa_
Veebers wrote:Ah cool, thanks 7bit.
Just to confirm, I can only increase the amount of items I've already ordered, not add any more right?
I was able to add other things.
Re: Round 5 / Honey Sphericals / taking orders!
Posted: 09 Mar 2014, 03:47
by jefferai
Muirium wrote:
Definitely. The Ducky's a fair wee beast. And the tradeoff between these caps and a backlight is hardly a contest at all. Round 4s really raise it to being one of my favourite keyboards, especially for long sessions. That and the MX reds!
How come?
I've ordered way too many keys for ErgoDox but I am now wondering if I should be getting space bars and such as a hedge against a future normal keyboard purchase. Maybe if the Ducky is great then I'll order for that and can use that or find a compatible keyboard if I look for one. It feels like I'd only need a few more keys on top of the alpha sets and various random sets that I bought.
Posted: 09 Mar 2014, 06:18
by sean4star
I made a partial payment through Google wallet this morning, but I haven't seen an updated invoice yet. I still owe a bit on my order. As soon as I get an updated invoice I'll pay the rest.
Posted: 09 Mar 2014, 11:54
by drrtyrokka
Will there be an updated invoice or a message that the money arrived? I'm really curious, can't wait two months

Posted: 09 Mar 2014, 11:56
by Muirium
jefferai wrote:
How come?
I find these SA profile caps to be the most comfortable that I've ever used. Spherical feels better to me, as do the sculpted row profiles. Also the sheer bulk of the caps adds a nice richness to the typing sound, and of course they look magnificent. I can't find any fault in them. That's why I've ordered up a fair old crate full of Round 5!
This here Ducky likely isn't anything spectacular in itself, but it's solid, MX mount and those caps transform it into one of my favourite daily keyboards. What makes it especially good for long sessions is the MX reds. I mostly type on buckling spring or MX greens, so these guys are quite a difference! I'm usually into heavy switches, obviously, and tried MX red out of curiosity. Glad that I did. Like Topre, they're the kind of switch you want several hours into a project. Not as loud and proud as buckling spring, but so much gentler. Besides, the big caps help maintain a proper clack, so I don't miss the clicks as much.
Sometime, when I pluck up the courage to do
some of this to my duck, I might pop in
some of these. A softer landing for my persistently heavy hands could be just what I'm still looking for. And maybe a black spring on space bar. But I'm noticing its lightness less and less with prolonged use.
Anyway, all of the above could be just as true for your ErgoDox. I haven't used one, but I expect I'd work well on one of those with caps like these and MX reds; after adaptation. I keep putting off learning Colemak until I make or buy a split ergo. My current typing style is frenetic and really needs an education!
Posted: 09 Mar 2014, 12:59
by 7bit
Veebers wrote:Ah cool, thanks 7bit.
Just to confirm, I can only increase the amount of items I've already ordered, not add any more right?
You can add more, but can't remove your locked order, becuase we will quite soon send all the money to SP, so clearing out orders are not possible anymore.
Posted: 09 Mar 2014, 13:59
by Muirium
When is the deadline for new additions?
When is closure?
When will this ever end!
Did you send them yet?
Posted: 09 Mar 2014, 14:06
by 7bit
Muirium wrote:When is the deadline for new additions?
When everything has been sold out (way after initial shipping).
Muirium wrote:When is closure?
When I moved the leftovers to CherryMX and started the Round 6 thread.
Muirium wrote:When will this ever end!
Not really!
Muirium wrote:Did you send them yet?
No.
Posted: 09 Mar 2014, 14:10
by Muirium
Aw!
Posted: 09 Mar 2014, 14:28
by drrtyrokka
I got an invoice, that half of the money did arrive. The remaining 50 Euros I have send yesterday. I think the money will be there on Monday/Tuesday. As I live in germany, the money will arrive quicker i think.
Is this ok?
When do you plan to send the order?
Please wait for my money

Posted: 09 Mar 2014, 17:23
by PoisonHeadcrab
What is your best estimation on when production is finished and you'll be able to ship?
Posted: 09 Mar 2014, 18:15
by Vierax
PoisonHeadcrab wrote:What is your best estimation on when production is finished and you'll be able to ship?
I'd say at least 6 month, but I may be optimistic since there is a lot of packing work.
Re: Round 5 / Honey Sphericals / taking orders!
Posted: 09 Mar 2014, 18:24
by jefferai
Muirium wrote:
Anyway, all of the above could be just as true for your ErgoDox. I haven't used one, but I expect I'd work well on one of those with caps like these and MX reds; after adaptation. I keep putting off learning Colemak until I make or buy a split ergo. My current typing style is frenetic and really needs an education!
I sorta started learning Colemak before, but didn't finish. I have been having some trouble getting used to the Dox though (mostly from not committing to it enough due to lack of time) that I have been thinking that I should perhaps learn Colemak on the Dox, so that my fingers and brain associate one type of keyboard with one layout and 'normal' keyboard with QWERTY. Your post suggests that you think it's a good idea too.
FWIW I built my Ergo, and I'm glad I did. If you don't have the tools already it's not cheap...you can expect to spend maybe 150 USD acquiring them, but once you do they'll last for a long time. The actual build rewards patience and thought and care, and the feeling you get when you plug it in and everything works is just fantastic. I feel like I can tackle any hobbyist soldering project now.
Plus, you can tweak it along the way. I used the opportunity to make ergo clears and lube the stems.
Posted: 09 Mar 2014, 18:40
by zhasha
facetsesame wrote:With a volume like that I bet you could have added ALPS stems, though I respect your right to relative sanity!
Stop it! You're gonna make me

!
Posted: 09 Mar 2014, 18:43
by Vierax
Muirium wrote:jefferai wrote:
How come?
I find these SA profile caps to be the most comfortable that I've ever used. Spherical feels better to me, as do the sculpted row profiles. Also the sheer bulk of the caps adds a nice richness to the typing sound, and of course they look magnificent. I can't find any fault in them. That's why I've ordered up a fair old crate full of Round 5!
[…]
I keep putting off learning Colemak until I make or buy a split ergo. My current typing style is frenetic and really needs an education!
I try SA since a week and it needs a little time of adaptation when you come from low profile cylindrical (Cherry/GMK and DCS) but it must be the same with DSA. What I really like is that the extra weight of those caps require less force to type and the homing deep dish is great. What I dislike is the lack of grain on surface : my fingers tend to slip a bit and paradoxically the weight is a weakness too because it's harder to double tap as fast as lighter caps families : the key takes much time to regain its normal high.
If I have to use something else than bépo and qwerty (rarely used and only for legacy purpose on my G80-3000 such as some us-centered games and Linux magic syst req keys) I think I'll go for Colemak too. You can start touch typing right now since it's like driving a car : you only need a little adaptation when you switch for another keyboard and you'll really feel the benefit of every changing (firstly colemak then ergonomic kb)
jefferai wrote:so that my fingers and brain associate one type of keyboard with one layout and 'normal' keyboard with QWERTY.
It's useful if you already touchtype in another layout or if you plan to do it because of work environment. Else, there is no reason to wait.

Posted: 09 Mar 2014, 19:10
by 7bit
zhasha wrote:facetsesame wrote:With a volume like that I bet you could have added ALPS stems, though I respect your right to relative sanity!
Stop it! You're gonna make me

!
When we reach 100,000 (ie 400%) I add Alps key caps.
Vierax wrote:...
I try SA since a week and it needs a little time of adaptation when you come from low profile cylindrical (Cherry/GMK and DCS) but it must be the same with DSA. What I really like is that the extra weight of those caps require less force to type and the homing deep dish is great. What I dislike is the lack of grain on surface : my fingers tend to slip a bit and paradoxically the weight is a weakness too because it's harder to double tap as fast as lighter caps families : the key takes much time to regain its normal high.
I swap daily between Cherry MX with sphericals and Model M with cylindricals and have no problem to adapt, except that 122 keys are definitely too few.
Posted: 09 Mar 2014, 19:32
by PoisonHeadcrab
Vierax wrote:PoisonHeadcrab wrote:What is your best estimation on when production is finished and you'll be able to ship?
I'd say at least 6 month, but I may be optimistic since there is a lot of packing work.
But the wiki says shipping should be in April or May already... So I suppose that was before the deadline got delayed so many times?