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Muirium wrote: 14 Oct 2022, 21:22 Quote:

It uses a variation of Alps mount in that it features a peg that fits inside the larger peg in the keycap (which limits the available keycaps that fit it).

Sad trombone.

Not very useful at all. Don’t trash them, they look too good and Alps killers go to hell, but bundle them free with something else.

the typical muirium nonsense at it again, i suggest you try them yourself first before making any statement..

those are very fine switches and if in good condition (no scratch/bind) could ask for more than 15 money. but would suggest to include keycaps then.

doomsday_device wrote: 14 Oct 2022, 21:30 but would suggest to include keycaps then.

Which was the point I made, as stated on the wiki: some Alps aren’t Alps compatible.

Someone clearly misunderstood someone here... Seems like you both agree that they're good enough switches but not much use to most of us when offered without matching keycaps?

I swear, DT has the highest incidence of misunderstandings-turned-bitchy

Well, I don't have caps for it so I guess they go in the bin.

Icarium wrote: 15 Oct 2022, 00:24 Well, I don't have caps for it so I guess they go in the bin.

Any chance regular alps caps would fit? I found a picture of Alps SKFL with a key cap and it looks very similar to alps mount caps.

SKFL Cap and Switch: Source: http://mousefan.telcontar.net/image/hx10d.htm

Cap and switch of an alps mount Monterey K208 from my collection: I wouldn’t throw it in the bin just yet… There might be hope!

thefarside wrote: 15 Oct 2022, 01:28
Any chance regular alps caps would fit? I found a picture of Alps SKFL with a key cap and it looks very similar to alps mount caps.

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I wouldn’t throw it in the bin just yet… There might be hope!

The discussion here would suggest that normal Alps caps will indeed work; at least some of them:

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55110.0

Icarium wrote: 15 Oct 2022, 00:24 Well, I don't have caps for it so I guess they go in the bin.

Actually, I find them interesting Too bad I didn't say that sooner

Muirium wrote: 14 Oct 2022, 21:22 Don’t trash them, they look too good and Alps killers go to hell

Icarium wrote: 15 Oct 2022, 00:24 Well, I don't have caps for it so I guess they go in the bin.

I’ll be waiting for you Icarium, with my pitchfork.

Fine I'll keep it lying around and offer it to people who buy other boards from me. x)

Which reminds me: How much should I ask for this?

Some kind of pinkish Alps switch. One of the keycaps is busted as can be seen in the picture.

Icarium wrote: 15 Oct 2022, 20:48 Which reminds me: How much should I ask for this?

Some kind of pinkish Alps switch. One of the keycaps is busted as can be seen in the picture.

are you slowly getting rid of your stuff? those go for around 75€ on ebay.

I am too slowly getting rid of my stuff, yes. We're having another kid and our place is bursting at the seams. :/

Aaaand this?

Clearly, I have exhausted people's will to answer, but anyway, here is another:

Icarium wrote: 23 Oct 2022, 23:24 Clearly, I have exhausted people's will to answer, but anyway, here is another:

I guess somewhere between 100-200$

I need a price check on these three boards.. one is wrecked, looks like one part of the PCB was sawed off.

Ah, Micro Switch. Mr_A500 was after my grey numpad some years ago, so you might have a taker for the caps if he’s still interested. Was a while back though.

Edit:
Misremembered. Black numpad:



The caps are very nice. Thicc as can be. Don’t know what the going rate for the keyboards is, as they remain unconverted. (Probably.)

There's a Canon AP-400 typewriter available locally. An online search suggests that it has SKFF Alps switches? I'm not really interested for myself, but am wondering if I should grab it? Price is $68, possibly negotiable.

Polecat wrote: 25 Oct 2022, 03:23 I'm not really interested for myself, but am wondering if I should grab it?

Are you going to flip it, or is that a collector’s cry for help? “I don’t need it for my collection but, you know…”

I am baffled by low serial number and variant (D) of my
keyboard so I am asking : Did I find something good and rare or .. ?

D is likely for Deutsch, given the layout.

I don’t know if any Macintosh collectors are so interested in serial numbers as to compensate for the heavy shine and deep yellowing though. That 1984 keyboard must have done quite the tour of duty!

Muirium wrote: 25 Oct 2022, 15:03 D is likely for Deutsch, given the layout.

I don’t know if any Macintosh collectors are so interested in serial numbers as to compensate for the heavy shine and deep yellowing though. That 1984 keyboard must have done quite the tour of duty!

You know that keycaps can be replaced and also 99% of that keyboards are yellow without little retrobright?

I picked up an M0110 some years ago for 60 Euros that’s in better condition, without any obvious yellowing.



Their caps are more or less unique, as they’re not regular Alps mount like subsequent Apple mechs.

Muirium wrote: 25 Oct 2022, 09:55
Are you going to flip it, or is that a collector’s cry for help? “I don’t need it for my collection but, you know…”

I would resell it at cost to someone here, or failing that put it on ebay if there was a good chance of it selling (none currently on there). Shipping cost would probably kill both of those options unless it's worth a lot more than that, which is why I'm asking.

Fair enough. Sure you’re not starting down the slippery slope of extending into typewriters? Like pre-digital SLRs, they’re plentiful, often very well built, still work as intended, and almost nobody wants them. Beware!

Cyber Junkie wrote: 25 Oct 2022, 14:47 I am baffled by low serial number and variant (D) of my
keyboard so I am asking : Did I find something good and rare or .. ?

Wow, that appears to be the real thing. Here are a couple more examples with similar labels:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/313567053827

https://www.ebay.com/itm/384363279293

There are French and Italian ones on there too.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/154944305632

https://www.ebay.com/itm/313711082591

Muirium wrote: 25 Oct 2022, 15:57 Fair enough. Sure you’re not starting down the slippery slope of extending into typewriters? Like pre-digital SLRs, they’re plentiful, often very well built, still work as intended, and almost nobody wants them. Beware!

I met a guy once who collected antique barber's chairs. Completely useless, plus they don't stack well. It's all relative. But thanks for the warning, I get it!

Muirium wrote: 25 Oct 2022, 15:30 I picked up an M0110 some years ago for 60 Euros that’s in better condition, without any obvious yellowing.



Their caps are more or less unique, as they’re not regular Alps mount like subsequent Apple mechs.

They are not so rare, and you can buy good condition one for 80 euros or so, but
this one is nearly prototype
I meant you can exchange keycaps from another not working one to this one or something like that.

Polecat wrote: 25 Oct 2022, 16:03

Muirium wrote: 25 Oct 2022, 15:57 Fair enough. Sure you’re not starting down the slippery slope of extending into typewriters? Like pre-digital SLRs, they’re plentiful, often very well built, still work as intended, and almost nobody wants them. Beware!

I met a guy once who collected antique barber's chairs. Completely useless, plus they don't stack well. It's all relative. But thanks for the warning, I get it!

Hopefully he stuck with it until Hipsters rewound the clock on Turkish Barbers!

The only futures I've seen imagined where typewriters make a comeback are by Terry Gilliam and his fans.

Muirium wrote: 25 Oct 2022, 16:26
Hopefully he stuck with it until Hipsters rewound the clock on Turkish Barbers!

The only futures I've seen imagined where typewriters make a comeback are by Terry Gilliam and his fans.

There was a barber's (?) chair in that film too. Sounds like I need to pass on the Canon. Someone will undoubtedly end up wanting it in a month or three, but I can't afford to store it for them in the mean time while they think about it.