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Posted: 03 Jun 2013, 20:01
by Gilgam
cookie wrote:
Is it just me or are this mixed language keys look like a bunch of angry faces to you?
No that one is happy.

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Happy germans, could you ever imagine that

Posted: 03 Jun 2013, 20:44
by Halvar
Gilgam wrote:
Happy germans, could you ever imagine that

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Posted: 04 Jun 2013, 00:12
by usopia
...häppy ümlauts.

Posted: 04 Jun 2013, 00:45
by Acanthophis
Ivan, I still don't know if 1x1 B row singles in white (like the alphas) are available. Are they?
Posted: 04 Jun 2013, 03:36
by IvanIvanovich
I don't think so, but I will make sure with imsto.
Posted: 06 Jun 2013, 15:07
by IvanIvanovich
Current orders:
Black US: 14
Black DE: 3
Black ES: 1
Black FR: 1
Black NO: 1
Red US: 10
Red DE: 3
Blck/Chrcl: 1
Irish US: 7
Ural: 12
Miami US/UA: 4
Miami Ltd: 15
Miami ES/UA: 2
Scandinavia: 4
Blank: 14
Total: 92
Still a long way to go.
Posted: 06 Jun 2013, 15:20
by 7bit
Wow! A multistyle group buy with language choices!
Will they be made by SP, or GMK, or someone else?

Posted: 06 Jun 2013, 15:27
by LechnerDE
They will be dyesubbed by IMSTO in china. Thick PBT like the original Cherry stuff.
Come on 7Bit get the German sets! We need every order

Posted: 06 Jun 2013, 15:36
by Acanthophis
IvanIvanovich wrote:I don't think so, but I will make sure with imsto.
Thanks, let me know the outcome.
Posted: 06 Jun 2013, 15:52
by 7bit
Keycaps? Meh!
I can't see key caps anymore. I will pull the caps off some Alps keyboard and type on the switches.
Naked Alps are much more pleasant to type on than Cherry.

Posted: 06 Jun 2013, 15:54
by LechnerDE
7bit wrote:
Naked Alps are much more pleasant to type on than Cherry.
Blasphemy!!

Posted: 06 Jun 2013, 16:16
by maxmalkav
7bit wrote:Keycaps? Meh!
I can't see key caps anymore. I will pull the caps off some Alps keyboard and type on the switches.
Naked Alps are much more pleasant to type on than Cherry.

NMB Hi-Tek/space invaders switches are the new ALPS

(excuse me just having a big crush on the clicky ones)
Talking about the PBT sets, we really need an ISO enter keys dealer!
Posted: 06 Jun 2013, 16:30
by IvanIvanovich
Right dyesub with imsto for easy 20 MOQ for each legends choice. The missing ISO enter truly is an annoying issue I know. If there is enough ISO order we could do a matching blank ABS ISO enter order with GMK for better than nothing. It would be 300 keys divided by however many ISO set orders. I still don't think it would cost that much extra if say 100 ISO order.
Posted: 22 Jun 2013, 20:31
by IvanIvanovich
Options have changed. Please resubmit your order. Sorry to do this again!
All designs that were previously offered that did not have at least 10 orders as of today were cut. Single keys are only available as E row profile. The B row 1.25 turns out is only available in blue which doesn't match with anything... so I make decision not to offer.
Posted: 22 Jun 2013, 21:08
by nanu
In for some. I'd like to get an idea of what the Black (Mac version) looks like simply because I dislike the Win8 logo. Is it still available (because it's in the form)?
Posted: 22 Jun 2013, 22:30
by IvanIvanovich
Just finished new options mock ups, now in OP. In regard to Mac version, I used what seemed to be the most 'standard' adaptation on 104 PC keyboards. If this is 'wrong' according to most of consensus it can be adjusted as needed.
Posted: 23 Jun 2013, 02:07
by maxmalkav
We won't have proper ISO ES dyesub sets, never ever, sad but true
Thanks Ivan for offering that option, a shame we wouldn't find enough interest in the Spanish speaking community.
Posted: 23 Jun 2013, 02:09
by IvanIvanovich
Maybe if I can ever find a source for PBT Cherry profile ISO enter the situation will change. I am pretty sure that was a huge turn off for most that may have bought sets otherwise.
Posted: 23 Jun 2013, 02:33
by usopia
maxmalkav wrote:We won't have proper ISO ES dyesub sets, never ever, sad but true
Thanks Ivan for offering that option, a shame we wouldn't find enough interest in the Spanish speaking community.
...same problem here in germany with ISO-DE.

Posted: 23 Jun 2013, 03:38
by IvanIvanovich
Vintage Cherry DE sets are more possible to find sometimes even for cheap if you are diligent on ebay. Otherwise outside of Italian Olivetti, other language seem to be very rare in Cherry dyesubs complete usable not typewriter sets indeed.
Posted: 23 Jun 2013, 04:01
by damorgue
Yeah. Ducky recently launched some ISO PBT, but they are OEM profile and cold white or completely black. I have some lasered PBT ISO enters but they won't really match, and they are a bit yellow-toned as well.
Posted: 23 Jun 2013, 04:03
by nanu
IvanIvanovich wrote:Just finished new options mock ups, now in OP. In regard to Mac version, I used what seemed to be the most 'standard' adaptation on 104 PC keyboards. If this is 'wrong' according to most of consensus it can be adjusted as needed.
I take it back... are those updated mockup keys fully colored, or monochrome? Please be accurate.
My personal preference (which probably isn't the majority's):
blank > Win7 flag logo >>> Win8 flag logo >> Win9x flag logo
The eternal issue of tacky winkeys is why I'll take a blank set (even though I'm wanting only the 1.25x keys from it...)
Posted: 23 Jun 2013, 05:11
by IvanIvanovich
What you see is in mock ups what it will be in the actual set. Asides for some small color error that I need to fix on Ural and Miami sets everything is pretty accurate. I use same legend files for mock up that I will be submitting for production.
Posted: 23 Jun 2013, 10:53
by Halvar
IvanIvanovich wrote:Vintage Cherry DE sets are more possible to find sometimes even for cheap if you are diligent on ebay.
As you mention it: now I'm in need of a Moogle kit ... one with nice colorful Windows keys would be a dream ...
But I understand there probably won't be enough interest for that.
EDIT: ok I just read on GH that Imsto doesn't have any beige singles at all. Never mind.
Posted: 23 Jun 2013, 13:54
by rindorbrot
I'm in the same position as Halvar

But I take a blank set as moogle kit and the blank alpha keys I will probably give to me colleague.
Sad about the single keys, too. I really like the Retro Windows key style
Would it maybe possible to get the singles from SP? Altough then the profile will not match...
Posted: 23 Jun 2013, 15:41
by IvanIvanovich
You can get RGB set, it give you most of what need for 1.25 mods. Maybe make due with some laser set PBT win and menu key for a little bit.
Getting SP is not something I will do.
Posted: 24 Jun 2013, 19:02
by santino
Did I get it right, there is a ISO 105 keys option with blue german key legends? And the only thing that is missing is the enter key? Will they fit on a wasd-keyboard? I had problems fitting original cherry g80 keycaps on it.
Posted: 24 Jun 2013, 19:09
by Halvar
No, the only ISO set left after the cleanup is the Nordic set, and thats mixed colors on white caps. Just look at the OP.
Posted: 24 Jun 2013, 20:09
by santino
Ok thanks for the reply. Too bad I would really like some blue caps.

Posted: 25 Jun 2013, 15:49
by czarek
First time I see Cherry PBT Dye Subs with a Mac layout. I just cannot pass on that.