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Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 15:58
by Redmaus
Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 16:00
by Muirium
Piss: taken.
Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 16:03
by Wodan
Too much information: delivered.
Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 16:13
by seebart

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Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 16:16
by Brot
1,4000 $

Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 16:19
by Wodan
Story about Muirium's recent adventures:
Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 17:07
by zeitg3ist
Sgi button box
http://www.ebay.it/itm/SGi-SILICON-GRAP ... 1c618cb523
i dont even know what it is, but looks cool and expensive
Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 17:20
by ReleaseCandidate
Thats one half of SGIs 'Dials and Buttons'
http://techpubs.sgi.com/library/manuals ... 08-060.pdf
Way overpriced, because they are almost useless.
Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 17:37
by Blaise170
Looks like it might be Alps though. If it was 20EUR I'd probably buy it.
Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 17:44
by ReleaseCandidate
Blaise170 wrote: Looks like it might be Alps though.
Quite possible. There had been a (newer) granite version too.
Older Version (4D/Personal Iris):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pair-of-SGI-Sil ... 3d113877b2
Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 18:05
by Brot
Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 18:11
by shreebles
That was posted before, Brot, kinda expensive for what it is but interesting nonetheless!
Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 18:16
by Tuntematon
Blaise170 wrote: You know, it’s kind of funny, I know a really good source of Blue Alps keyboards and they are relatively cheap (by themselves about $50) but unfortunately I have to pay shipping costs from the other side of the globe which makes them much more expensive.

See what the shipping would be like if you buy them all. ALL OF THEM!
Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 18:47
by ohaimark
Flood the market. Lower the prices.
Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 19:09
by Tuntematon
The market is sensitive. A single buyer or seller can upset the balance.
Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 19:18
by amospalla
IBM Model M 1391405 Spanish for 40 euro shipping included.
I bought from this seller the same keyboard but much more clean for 35 euro, shipping included. Today it has been marked for shipment, my first Model M yay. Altough there is something strange, the one I bought has a yellowed space bar. Model M space bar is PBT, isn't it?
Curious after I just bought mine, he started to sell another one, but in worst condition for 5 euro more, or maybe in better condition? mh..
Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 19:21
by ohaimark
Model Ms with PBT space bars are the exception, not the rule. Most have ABS from what I understand?
I could be very, very wrong though.
Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 19:26
by amospalla
Thank you for the correction, for some reason I thought PBT was the norm on a Model M spacebar.
Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 19:31
by ohaimark
amospalla wrote: Thank you for the correction, for some reason I thought PBT was the norm on a Model M spacebar.
Wait until someone more knowledgeable than me delivers a final verdict.
Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 19:35
by XMIT
ohaimark wrote: amospalla wrote: Thank you for the correction, for some reason I thought PBT was the norm on a Model M spacebar.
Wait until someone more knowledgeable than me delivers a final verdict.
Not sure if I count, but: nearly all Model M keyboards have a PBT Space bar. Some - a very few, mostly built in Greenock, have ABS Space bars. If nothing else, replacement PBT Space bars are readily available from Unicomp and they're really not so bad.
I should really update
wiki/IBM_Enhanced_Keyboard. Most Model Ms have a PVC casing.
Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 19:45
by ohaimark
Thanks XMIT. I had it mixed up -- I thought Greenock was the source of PBT space bars, not ABS space bars.
Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 19:52
by zuglufttier
Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 20:01
by Muirium
CRT monitors… blech. That's one piece of the vintage experience I really don't miss! Along with floppies, ball mice and multiple daily restarts.
Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 20:20
by Chyros
ohaimark wrote: Thanks XMIT. I had it mixed up -- I thought Greenock was the source of PBT space bars, not ABS space bars.
No, they have crazy Health & Safety rules here, so they wanted grounded spacebars, so they made them out of ABS and clipped a metal bit to it to protect you from the evil electricity.
Honestly what is it with the fear of electricity here? The wall sockets have goddamn on/off buttons on them Oo .
Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 20:34
by Wodan
Anyone planning on getting this cheap ? I can't let this sell for less than 30€ unless one of you is aiming for it.
http://www.ebay.de/ulk/itm/291659062823
Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 20:53
by ohaimark
Chyros wrote: Honestly what is it with the fear of electricity here? The wall sockets have goddamn on/off buttons on them Oo .
America is nervous, but some of it serves a purpose. GFCIs are standard in bathroom building codes at least. I must say that grounding a space bar due to a 5 volt milliamp-current electrical source is excessive, though.
Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 20:56
by Sankart
I'm actually interested in this one. But I won't bid too much, since I'm fairly broke already.
Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 20:57
by XMIT
Chyros wrote: ohaimark wrote: Thanks XMIT. I had it mixed up -- I thought Greenock was the source of PBT space bars, not ABS space bars.
No, they have crazy Health & Safety rules here, so they wanted grounded spacebars, so they made them out of ABS and clipped a metal bit to it to protect you from the evil electricity.
Honestly what is it with the fear of electricity here? The wall sockets have goddamn on/off buttons on them Oo .
I didn't think that was paranoia so much as energy savings. It's nice to know that your devices at idle use Zero Watts instead of zero-ish.
Thanks for the good explanation of the grounded Space bar. Would you mind adding that to the Wiki?
Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 21:03
by Muirium
Those switches are quite useful, mind. OfftopicThority coming up…
I'm not a fan of our vastly oversized cartoon power plugs here in Britain. So needlessly BIG.
BUT! I am a fan of how the cables are routed down the wall. Our plugs have the cable come out down at the bottom. American plugs jam it straight out the back, which makes for really ugly wiring nests beside beds and tables.
I can see one trick in a cable out the back: you can grab the cable and pull it out directly with one big yank on the thing. But is that useful? It encourages people pulling the cable instead of the plug, which is poor form and wears down the insulation or plain breaks the plug. If you really must CUT THE POWER RIGHT NOW then flip the switch, right there on the wall socket. That's the advantage of our ones. And similar systems worldwide.
Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 21:06
by gogusrl
With these crazy prices someone needs to post a Nixdorf with all the right keywords and pics, see how high that goes
