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Posted: 01 Mar 2016, 07:11
by kbdfr
hypkx wrote:
Really nice thing, I thought about buying it for the keycaps, but I think currently I have enough stuff on the way to me

These special audio control keycaps would be really cool to use on a programmable keyboard.
Wow, somebone just bought it for 45€ while I was just writing a post offering one of those for less
Also different keycaps available.
By the way, looking at his eBay name, I have to add (sorry for non-German speakers) that I am not the seller

Posted: 01 Mar 2016, 07:13
by gogusrl
Gonna need more details on that. I've been looking for some phone related keycaps for a while.
Posted: 01 Mar 2016, 09:34
by ReleaseCandidate
ohaimark wrote: So the eBay Int'l shipping service is worth using?
Yes, definately.
Blaise170 wrote: Almost all of those editing keyboards with the super colorful keys are Avid keyboards, Macally is the only other brand I can think of that sells the hyper-colorful editing keyboards.
There are companies like Logickeyboard
http://www.logickeyboard.com/shop/frontpage.html that make keyboards with program specific keys.
Posted: 01 Mar 2016, 09:47
by scottc
shreebles wrote: jerue wrote:
thanks for sharing, I sent this to a fellow GH'er looking for the caps.

Well there you go, I remember everyone whining about the price of SAU keycaps but 90$ is not really so bad then, is it? Especially for those with a Leeku

Those are HAU... big difference.

Posted: 01 Mar 2016, 09:52
by Muirium
All the difference. The
Sublimationduck is one stunningly costly bird.
Posted: 01 Mar 2016, 10:01
by photekq
Muirium wrote: All the difference. The
Sublimationduck is one stunningly costly bird.
And a stunningly pretty one too!

Posted: 01 Mar 2016, 10:44
by Wodan
One more for Muirium:

Posted: 01 Mar 2016, 10:55
by Halvar
Muirium wrote: All the difference. The
Sublimationduck is one stunningly costly bird.
In for a sublimation duck!
Posted: 01 Mar 2016, 11:13
by Muirium
Posted: 01 Mar 2016, 11:41
by shreebles
scottc wrote:
Those are HAU... big difference.

Woah - misread that. It was late, and the pictures are fuzzy and lack contrast. On the pictures, they looked like Dye-subs to me, even though the product code is a dead giveaway!
I know the difference well - I sold most of my doubleshots to get money for dye-subs

Luckily, I use the common (for Cherry) ISO-DE layout.
Posted: 01 Mar 2016, 13:44
by zuglufttier
Posted: 01 Mar 2016, 13:51
by seebart
Indeed it does, I'll make him a (low) offer.
http://www.old-computers.com/museum/com ... st=1&c=228
photekq wrote: And a stunningly pretty one too!
Impressive shot!
Sublimationduck

Posted: 01 Mar 2016, 14:07
by zuglufttier
Make the offer very low, from the website you posted:
The keyboards on these things were terrible! The action was like typing on a sponge. My guess is they had the same underpinnings as the 318 (equally bad) but with plastic keycaps on top.
Posted: 01 Mar 2016, 14:11
by seebart
zuglufttier wrote: Make the offer very low, from the website you posted:
The keyboards on these things were terrible! The action was like typing on a sponge. My guess is they had the same underpinnings as the 318 (equally bad) but with plastic keycaps on top.
Before I make any offer I need to find out what swtich it has or if it's a dome.
Posted: 01 Mar 2016, 14:23
by tentator
Is it only me that prefers Doubleshots to dyesubs?

I mean I know the abs texture will eventually get shiny and I hate it but maybe sandblasting will be a solution for the future...

dyesubs look to me like a tattooed cap

also fonts and size I find usually bad on dyesubs...
Posted: 01 Mar 2016, 14:33
by shreebles
You are not the only one, I have heard this before. The main reason I still like doubleshots is their contrast, it is beautiful and the fonts are extremely sharp, compared to the more fuzzy look on dye-subs. Fonts and their size should be the same as Doubleshots but due to the different methods they look different.
But there is another component to why I prefer dye-sub in the end: The inherent superiority of the PBT material.
It is deeper in sound, and I prefer not to use O-rings, the ABS caps always sound "clacky" in comparison, too high pitched.
Obviously it is a lot more durable but it also does not yellow much. So you can have beautiful 25 year old dye-sub keycaps that look like new, pearly white. This is hard to find with doubleshots, and gets worse over time. Lastly the texture. ABS texture is nice in the beginning and terrible by the end (unless you actually like smooth and shiny), whereas the PBT is more silky, what little texture you can feel stays for a long time.
Posted: 01 Mar 2016, 14:40
by seebart
Yeah I agree with shreebles, PBT is the choice for me. The printing is secondary. I own vintage doubleshots that are nicer than most other keycaps. Then again those are an exception I guess.
Posted: 01 Mar 2016, 14:46
by snuci
For someone with a few vintage keyboards, I'm in for glossy doubleshots that look almost enameled like teeth. PBT is the obvious choice for matte key caps. Like Seebart, it's hard to generalize into only one key cap type.
Posted: 01 Mar 2016, 14:56
by tigpha
shreebles wrote: The main reason I still like doubleshots is their contrast, it is beautiful and the fonts are extremely sharp, compared to the more fuzzy look on dye-subs.
Quality PBT dye-sublimed legends are razor sharp, when done correctly. The IBM Bigfoot caps are testament to this. They are gorgeous.
shreebles wrote: ABS texture is nice in the beginning and terrible by the end (unless you actually like smooth and shiny), whereas the PBT is more silky, what little texture you can feel stays for a long time.
Yes. Even well worn shiny PBT feels better than lightly polished ABS. I'm definitely a PBT snob.
Posted: 01 Mar 2016, 15:06
by Scottex
seebart wrote: zuglufttier wrote: Make the offer very low, from the website you posted:
The keyboards on these things were terrible! The action was like typing on a sponge. My guess is they had the same underpinnings as the 318 (equally bad) but with plastic keycaps on top.
Before I make any offer I need to find out what swtich it has or if it's a dome.
slider over dome
and not the good kind
actually the worst i've ever tried
the keycaps are abs spherical doubleshoots cross mounted, but too big for mx
i have read somewhere that with some filling they might fit mx, i have not tried this with mine tho
Posted: 01 Mar 2016, 15:09
by tentator
Yeah snuci also glossy teeth like Doubleshots really look great to me indeed.. in some dark color even better.. not just black but dark grey dark red or dark blue...but kind of difficult to find....
Posted: 01 Mar 2016, 15:10
by gogusrl
I have cherry doubleshots sitting in a drawer because I'd rather type on lasered thick pbt. Looks will always take the second place to feel and sound for me.
Posted: 01 Mar 2016, 15:14
by lolpes
gogusrl wrote: I have cherry doubleshots sitting in a drawer because I'd rather type on lasered thick pbt. Looks will always take the second place to feel and sound for me.
I do the same, but with pbt dyesubs from cherry :p
Posted: 01 Mar 2016, 15:57
by Redmaus
Posted: 01 Mar 2016, 16:05
by quochung1989
I too. Only typing on Cherry dye-sub & let Double shot caps go.
Posted: 01 Mar 2016, 16:10
by ohaimark
Posted: 01 Mar 2016, 16:11
by Khers
All those half-height function keys are very non-Cherry though.
Posted: 01 Mar 2016, 16:14
by ohaimark
Posted: 01 Mar 2016, 16:15
by Halvar
The caps don't look like Cherry at all, but quite interesting anyway. The LEDs under the key caps are something that I wouldn't expect on a rubberdome board, so I guess this must be mechanical.
Posted: 01 Mar 2016, 16:25
by Wodan
Oh wow that wouldn't last long in my jurisdiction.
Edit: 1u caps with led window are so hooot