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Cherry MX Silent?
Posted: 05 Aug 2015, 19:25
by chzel
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2 ... x-silent/1
http://hexus.net/tech/news/peripherals/ ... -launched/
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Tastature ... t-1166850/
It seems Cherry launched another Corsair exclusive!
From what I gather, they use Alps-style dampers and they will come in Red and Black.
Any of the CM reps around for more info???
Posted: 05 Aug 2015, 19:27
by Muirium
Naturally, I'm intrigued. Any chance they can lube them right too!
Posted: 05 Aug 2015, 19:32
by chzel
Smooth (like vintage) AND silent MX Blacks...Oh the joy!
Re: Cherry MX Silent?
Posted: 05 Aug 2015, 19:33
by seebart
Remains to be seen...
Posted: 05 Aug 2015, 19:36
by Muirium
Yeah, I'd be surprised! Positively so.
Posted: 05 Aug 2015, 19:37
by Chyros
Hmmm, so they wisely went for the Alps dampening design. Good choice, it's a simple yet very effective mechanism. Wonder what these are like. Tbh Cherry switches weren't all that loud apart from the blue variety...
Posted: 05 Aug 2015, 19:39
by chzel
No matter how good they will be, there will probably be a "Don't touch, only we can play with it" policy from Corsair...
And I'm not too keen on buying a 160€ keyboard to harvest switches!
Posted: 05 Aug 2015, 20:15
by Muirium
Chyros wrote: Hmmm, so they wisely went for the Alps dampening design. Good choice, it's a simple yet very effective mechanism. Wonder what these are like.
I wonder. MX doesn't have the room, or the fundamental geometry, for the way Alps did it. I'm keen to see where exactly they put the damping. And what material it is. Could be hard for us to copy. Could even be destroyed whenever people open up a switch. Needs to be seen.
Chyros wrote: Tbh Cherry switches weren't all that loud apart from the blue variety...
Oh, they are. Try doing on an MX keyboard what I did with my Topres in this video:
http://deskthority.net/videos-f63/topic11287.html
The stock NovaTouch's Achilles heel is the topping out racket. Much like linear MX! And the better built the keyboard, the louder it gets.
Posted: 05 Aug 2015, 20:17
by tlt
Corsair is probably paying some of the development cost to get the exclusivity.
Posted: 05 Aug 2015, 20:56
by Findecanor
At last! What took you so long, Cherry?
Direct link to detailed rendering.
However, article fail in that it claims that "click" is the sound on topping up or bottoming down. I suppose that flaw was in the press release from Corsair.
Posted: 05 Aug 2015, 20:59
by Muirium
Thanks for that! Here's the interesting bit:

- Screen Shot 2015-08-05 at 7.57.23 pm.png (218.21 KiB) Viewed 11230 times
Looks like they are damping in the equivalent spot to good old Alps. It'll be a squeeze!
Posted: 05 Aug 2015, 21:43
by amospalla
Oh... if this is well done then I will have to test again a dampened red one, it will never end!!!
What mixed feelings this makes me have.
Posted: 05 Aug 2015, 21:47
by chzel
Didn't you know? It never ends.
Posted: 06 Aug 2015, 03:06
by Redmaus
I might just want to buy the switches alone.
I don't really care for the strafe...
Posted: 06 Aug 2015, 06:32
by chzel
Good luck with that..
Posted: 06 Aug 2015, 14:47
by Muirium
So, who's got some spare MX switches lying about? I want to hear how hard it is to make and install such tiny dampers. And I especially want to know if Cherry altered the slider shape to accommodate them.
Could be a chance these dampers are an addition to normal switches, rather than a full different slider. Anyone know?
Posted: 06 Aug 2015, 14:52
by Khers
From the render above I take it that it is indeed a new slider design based on the fact that the entire innards of the slider seem to be made out of the grey material that is supposedly the damper with a black shell.
Posted: 06 Aug 2015, 14:55
by Muirium
Oh right. I didn't realise that colour meant anything. My eyes are fixed on the little damper on the left, at the top of the slider rail. Topping out is the damping that I care about.
That said, a bit more mass in the slider (especially spongy, non-sound transmitting) ought to help on both strokes. But a damper right at the contact point between slider and top shell makes all the difference to me, on Alps and Topre.
Posted: 06 Aug 2015, 15:34
by andrewjoy
any sound samples yet ?
Posted: 06 Aug 2015, 15:52
by Muirium
Where's our Corsair rep!
Posted: 06 Aug 2015, 18:28
by Redmaus
Muirium wrote: Where's our Corsair rep!
Darn straight! The voice of DT needs to be heard! Although we really aren't the place for backlighting or RGB...
Posted: 06 Aug 2015, 18:44
by Muirium
Indeed. But damped switches… yeah,
some of us are interested in that! This reminds me of when CM got into Topre switches, and suddenly got my attention too.
Posted: 06 Aug 2015, 20:11
by davkol
derp
Posted: 06 Aug 2015, 20:15
by Muirium
A lot of us want to keep it so simple that we don't have to go through the bother of opening up dozens upon dozens of switches! It's
tedious, tiny, time consuming work.
You'll get better results with Nixies, of course, so long as the damping works.
Posted: 06 Aug 2015, 20:23
by davkol
derp
Posted: 07 Aug 2015, 00:56
by Jmneuv
Nice.. who would have thought. Am a bit sceptical about the longevity of this microscopic rubber part.
Posted: 07 Aug 2015, 01:00
by chzel
The equivalent rubber parts in Alps are really durable, so I don't think it would be a problem, unless they make it too soft or something!
Posted: 07 Aug 2015, 21:59
by Findecanor
The rubber parts on Alps are much bigger than these and less complicated.
Posted: 12 Aug 2015, 16:13
by Bramster
Any of the CM reps around for more info???
Officially ofcousre I cannot comment on this. What is known now is that its Corsair exclusive for the comming 6 months and available in Black and Red versions, but thats all from the PRs ofcourse.. Anymore info I cannot say.
But perhaps you can specify what question you might have czhel?
Posted: 12 Aug 2015, 16:56
by chzel
Thank you for the comment!
I think you covered it pretty well!
I was curious about availability for the "general public", and being an MX Black fan, I'd like to know all the details! Are they smoother than regular blacks? How does the damping feel compared to Alps or Matias damped? Do the bumpers reduce travel or are the switch bodies different? Longevity?
Any answer you can give would be great!