Dyesub Keysets --- USD$75 shipped worldwide via normal airmail (+USD$2/set for registered airmail w/ tracking & signature on delivery)
Spoiler:
US -- Black
US -- Red
US -- Blue
US -- Green
US -- Purple
US -- Dark & Black
US -- Blue White Black *harrowing tale from EnjoyPBT on the birth of the colourway: [more]
*This Blue White Black colourway was originally specially ordered by a certain international Group Buy website/company for their own GB. They had promised ~2000 sets, and had EnjoyPBT custom mold the colourway for their GB as floating stock and sample/prototypes.
The company took samples from EnjoyPBT to open the GB, but did not return to commit to their order after they ended their GB. Hence, EnjoyPBT has a massive overstock of the Blue White Black colourway blank sets, and hence opened it for GB on GH to clear as much as they can.[/more]
RU -- Black
RU -- Black & Red
RU -- Black & Cyan
RU -- Black & Orange
KR -- Cyan & Pink
Blank Keysets --- USD$35 (USD$40 for Dual Tone) shipped worldwide via normal airmail (+USD$2/set for registered airmail w/ tracking & signature on delivery)
Spoiler:
4x Single Tone Keysets:
White (normal, not ghost white)
Beige
Light grey
Dark grey
5x Dual Tone Keysets:
Dark Grey mods w/ Light Grey alphas
Dark Grey mods w/ Beige alphas
Dark Grey mods w/ White alphas
Light Grey mods w/ Beige alphas
Light Grey mods w/ White alphas
From left to right: Dark Gray, Light Gray, Beige, and White.
Included also in the photo are pebble (F8) and pearl (F9) key caps from a Model M for color comparison.
Format of two-tones (borrowed from Ivan):
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote from Infiniti's media thread on the PBT Blanks
I had the opportunity to play around with some Gateron blank PBT key caps in Cherry Profile!
Each set is a single color and includes the following:
The stem placements for the space bars are as follows:
Scan of the space bars alongside a ruler: Reply #23
A comparison with other space bars:
From left to right: Dark Gray, Light Gray, Beige, and White. Included also in the photo are pebble (F8) and pearl (F9) key caps from a Model M for color comparison.
Here's a few comparison shot to the beiges of gaterons next to OG doubleshots.
Posted: 11 Jan 2016, 16:26
by scottc
These caps are awesome, I have the blank ones. Really great quality. Not quite Cherry PBT, but pretty damn good. I'd get a dyesub set if I didn't already have the real thing.
Posted: 11 Jan 2016, 16:41
by Matt_
Gotta get a cyan/pink KR set, and perhaps a Purple set as well.
Hope the issue with Matt3o's colorway will get sorted though.
Posted: 11 Jan 2016, 16:44
by scottc
Wah wah wah, Gateron made a prototype and Massdrop didn't go through with it or got a better deal elsewhere.
Posted: 11 Jan 2016, 18:03
by lolpes
They added CMYW set for 35$
Posted: 11 Jan 2016, 18:32
by lolpes
Fixed picture links
Posted: 11 Jan 2016, 21:14
by LeandreN
I have ordered 10 EnjoyPBT ISO enters from TaoBao. I just need some 1.25 shifts... I would have bought a set instantly if i had the money to spend.
Posted: 11 Jan 2016, 21:16
by itzmeluigi
LeandreN wrote: I have ordered 10 EnjoyPBT ISO enters from TaoBao. I just need some 1.25 shifts... I would have bought a set instantly if i had the money to spend.
Awesome didnt know they had ISO enters, do they have the \ key also that goes next to the ISO enter?
Posted: 11 Jan 2016, 21:32
by Madhias
I think I'll get a set!
Posted: 11 Jan 2016, 21:52
by Tombery
Salute! Just submitted for my Ural
Posted: 11 Jan 2016, 22:14
by gogusrl
Tombery wrote: Salute! Just submitted for my Ural
nvm, dunno why I thought it should look different. tough choices. leandre, sign me up for an ISO enter.
Posted: 11 Jan 2016, 22:27
by scottc
I'd be up for ISO enters from them, are they blank LeandreN?
Posted: 12 Jan 2016, 03:08
by rddm
I just don't buy because they aren't ISO compatible
Posted: 12 Jan 2016, 08:37
by LeandreN
Ohh nice. I need to hear from my Taobao proxy, it might take a while. They are all blank in different colours. No 1.25u shift though.
Posted: 12 Jan 2016, 12:01
by gogusrl
who cares about 1.25 shift, hook us up with some row 3 |\ 1u keys.
Posted: 13 Jan 2016, 20:07
by vsev
Actually I have to admit that 1.25u shifts are a dismiss from this GB to me also :/
Posted: 13 Jan 2016, 20:41
by Prelim
purple's fuckin sick beautiful!! I also like the green (irish) sets:
Posted: 13 Jan 2016, 21:49
by Matt_
That was Ivan's green/US International set (and I agree it looks awesome), but I'm not sure the same will be offered in Shadovved's GB.
Posted: 13 Jan 2016, 21:50
by Prelim
indeed, Shadovved's green it's only one color (without secondary legends)
Of course. If we are unable to hit the MOQ, we will revert back to the original USD$75 for pure ANSI sets, and then I can cancel orders for people who just want the ISO.
Shadovved wrote:Will you mind if ISO kits are added on to every set to help afford the mold cost? (+USD$15/fullset, 500 MOQ for dyesubs combined)
Posted: 17 Jan 2016, 12:14
by t!ng
And now make the same poll here, on DT.
I for example would order some otaku keycaps if there were an ISO option.
Would it be cheaper if there would be an ISO option only for the otaku keycaps and not the dye subbed ones?
Posted: 17 Jan 2016, 12:23
by webwit
Lame registration wall.
Posted: 17 Jan 2016, 12:31
by Madhias
I have read the IMSTO dye subs have nicer legends than those Gaterons? What I really don't like are blurry and unsharp legends. Of course they are not as sharp as double shots, but they can be OK. I think that light cyan or blue looks on some pictures I saw horrible.
So gateron has the ISO enter, but not the 1,25 shift? Do they need to make a new mold?
Posted: 17 Jan 2016, 20:47
by scottc
Surely the 1.25u shift would be the same profile as the 1.25u B-profile mods? Is that not the case?
Posted: 18 Jan 2016, 16:16
by gianni
It's not clear to me why the molds costs $5'000.... is it for the enter key, or is it for the shift, because I've already seen those keys in a gateron set... maybe the weren't made by gateron? this would give us much freedom in the future.
Posted: 18 Jan 2016, 18:03
by lolpes
gianni wrote: It's not clear to me why the molds costs $5'000.... is it for the enter key, or is it for the shift, because I've already seen those keys in a gateron set... maybe the weren't made by gateron? this would give us much freedom in the future.
From what I could gather, The mold for the ISO Enter belongs to IMSTO, in the past gateron had to ask imsto permission to use the molds, or pay him to do so.
Posted: 18 Jan 2016, 18:58
by Prelim
that's quite strange, taking into account that IMSTO doesn't even offer ISO Enter in his sets :/
also from what I know, IMSTO doesn't produce caps... he just buys BSP/Vortex/Gateron/etc caps and offer his dyesub services to make the sets.
Firstly, this is equivalent to us purchasing a set of fresh molds, hence we will have rights to use the current mold as and when we wish, as well as define our own custom ISO kit components (if unavailable, new ones would be made).
Hence current and future ISO kits will be less than $10 a set.
Secondly, imsto would not readily agree to us using his molds as he solely controls the supply, and to provide to us at whatever price he deems fit.
If he chooses to offer ISO kits for $15-20/set per round of GB, I would rather we bite the bullet as a community for the mold and reduce the cost by a substantial amount than repeatedly pay extravagant charges for the kits just because we do not have rights to the mold.
EDIT: To clarify, I don't need every full set to come with an ISO kit. I just need a substantial amount purchased so reduce the cost across the board. Mold costs $5000, and per ISO set after the mold is expected to be around $8-10 depending on what is in the kits.
So if I have 100 ISO kits purchased, average cost would be $58/set of ISO.
$33 for 200 kits, $25 for 300 kits, etc.
It does not make sense, but that is the info I could get :/
