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Raytheon 6104-04
Posted: 18 Jan 2017, 23:58
by livingspeedbump
This particular Raytheon has been broken down already by
Haata here, but I just wanted to add a few more pictures of the one I have. Yes, these guys make missiles
I have a few other Cortron boards (the OEM of this one), and the switches are actually quite nice. Magnetic valve/pulse (linear) switches.
I do love the retro-futuristic design of the case. The angles are very nice I think.
Here is the more common Cortron 81 that is nearly identical in many ways.
Posted: 19 Jan 2017, 00:56
by E3E
I was about to ask you how you've made the damn thing float, because it looks like it's hovering in the first shot.

Posted: 19 Jan 2017, 01:13
by Ail
I know I already commented on Reddit as well, but I just love this board. It is one of the most beautiful I've seen since jumping in to this hobby. I universally dislike yellow and all its flavors, but the gold here is just perfect. The colors, the layout, and in incredible condition to boot. Jealous of this one!
Posted: 19 Jan 2017, 03:08
by Elrick
livingspeedbump wrote:
This particular Raytheon has been broken down already by
Haata here, but I just wanted to add a few more pictures of the one I have. Yes, these guys make missiles
Remembered the first Apple G3 Towers all had Raytheon power circuitry and someone hinted they were offloading their older power hardware for missile guidance systems to Apple, whether it's true or not who knows

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You could literally overclock your G3 300 to 466 Mhz simply by changing the position of a few pins on the motherboard, and it worked for a few years at that target speed. Was very impressed with those early G3's.
Back to Keyboards here, really love that whole colour scheme they had done, would kill for a keyboard done in that very exact colour-way.
Posted: 19 Jan 2017, 07:30
by Hlogooo
So beautiful, are they use cross bottom?
Posted: 19 Jan 2017, 11:10
by seebart
Awesome livingspeedbump, I've been gazing at this Raytheon for years trying to find one. Also thanks for updating my desktop wallpaper selection.

Posted: 19 Jan 2017, 13:29
by Chyros
Gorgeous boards, these just look amazing to me. Noice!
Posted: 19 Jan 2017, 15:34
by livingspeedbump
Hlogooo wrote: So beautiful, are they use cross bottom?
No, it uses a square bottom, much like hall effect. Here is an image of them:
The top switch in the image above is the latching caps lock switch, it is the only switch on the board different from the others.
Posted: 19 Jan 2017, 15:34
by livingspeedbump
seebart wrote: Awesome livingspeedbump, I've been gazing at this Raytheon for years trying to find one. Also thanks for updating my desktop wallpaper selection.

I do really like the look of them as well! Glad you enjoyed the pics

Posted: 19 Jan 2017, 17:01
by E3E
Ahh, the era of delicious sphericals. A lovely heyday~
Posted: 19 Jan 2017, 21:41
by Hlogooo
livingspeedbump wrote: Hlogooo wrote: So beautiful, are they use cross bottom?
No, it uses a square bottom, much like hall effect. Here is an image of them:
The top switch in the image above is the latching caps lock switch, it is the only switch on the board different from the others.

Thanks, these double-shot are so high-quality.
Posted: 19 Jan 2017, 23:46
by Chyros
Hlogooo wrote: livingspeedbump wrote: Hlogooo wrote: So beautiful, are they use cross bottom?
No, it uses a square bottom, much like hall effect. Here is an image of them:
The top switch in the image above is the latching caps lock switch, it is the only switch on the board different from the others.

Thanks, these double-shot are so high-quality.
Everything Cortron made is high-quality

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Posted: 20 Jan 2017, 22:03
by Excelso
I've just fallen in love with that Cortron keyboard.
Posted: 21 Jan 2017, 04:12
by livingspeedbump
Excelso wrote: I've just fallen in love with that Cortron keyboard.
I have a few other Cortrons, but I do think this is my favorite of the lot.
Posted: 22 Jan 2017, 00:28
by Daniel Beardsmore
I notice in seebart's photo, the alternate action switch has a strange wire on it:
This wire also appears on a switch on one of HaaTa's keyboards, without explanation. I never knew what it was for. I still don't know what it's for but maybe it serves as a visual indication of an alternate switch within this series.
Oh wait, that's actually one of HaaTa's photos too, that seebart's uploaded as his own. (The previous batch of HaaTa's photos that he uploaded were at low resolution, I noticed.)
Posted: 22 Jan 2017, 17:59
by livingspeedbump
Daniel Beardsmore wrote: I notice in seebart's photo, the alternate action switch has a strange wire on it:
This wire also appears on a switch on one of HaaTa's keyboards, without explanation. I never knew what it was for. I still don't know what it's for but maybe it serves as a visual indication of an alternate switch within this series.
Oh wait, that's actually one of HaaTa's photos too, that seebart's uploaded as his own. (The previous batch of HaaTa's photos that he uploaded were at low resolution, I noticed.)
That switch is actually a latching Lock switch. The switch colors vary from white, grey, dark grey, black, but are otherwise identical.
I'll get some better pictures of that switch and post it later. I am desoldering one of these boards soon as well, so i can disassemble the switch and get some internal shots then.
Posted: 23 Jan 2017, 01:04
by Daniel Beardsmore
livingspeedbump wrote: That switch is actually a latching Lock switch. The switch colors vary from white, grey, dark grey, black, but are otherwise identical.
<Clouseau>That is what I have been saying</Clouseau>
Posted: 23 Jan 2017, 10:19
by seebart
Daniel Beardsmore wrote: I notice in seebart's photo, the alternate action switch has a strange wire on it
Yes that is HaaTa's photo and his keyboard. That's why I wrote locking switch in the description, it's also quite apparent in HaaTa's own thread Inspector Clouseau! Now if I had livingspeedbump's Raytheon 6104-04 serial I could add his images also (with wrong user upload but correct date!).
Posted: 31 Jan 2017, 22:02
by livingspeedbump
seebart wrote: Daniel Beardsmore wrote: I notice in seebart's photo, the alternate action switch has a strange wire on it
Yes that is HaaTa's photo and his keyboard. That's why I wrote locking switch in the description, it's also quite apparent in HaaTa's own thread Inspector Clouseau! Now if I had livingspeedbump's Raytheon 6104-04 serial I could add his images also (with wrong user upload but correct date!).
I somehow lost the picture I had of the label! Ping Engicoder to snap a pic of it for you, he has this board right now!
Posted: 31 Jan 2017, 22:03
by seebart
livingspeedbump wrote: seebart wrote: Daniel Beardsmore wrote: I notice in seebart's photo, the alternate action switch has a strange wire on it
Yes that is HaaTa's photo and his keyboard. That's why I wrote locking switch in the description, it's also quite apparent in HaaTa's own thread Inspector Clouseau! Now if I had livingspeedbump's Raytheon 6104-04 serial I could add his images also (with wrong user upload but correct date!).
I somehow lost the picture I had of the label! Ping Engicoder to snap a pic of it for you, he has this board right now!
No problem, thanks for the info.
Posted: 11 Jun 2017, 13:12
by mr_a500
Yes, Cortron/ITW switches are quite nice & smooth. The keycap plastic has a slightly cheaper feeling than other keyboards of the time though.
You can see this terminal (with yellow numeric keypad, like HaaTa's) in the movie Coma (1978):
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Posted: 13 Jun 2017, 16:02
by Mr.Nobody
Can we merge the two threads into one?
I love those sharp green letters on monochrome monitor...I have not gotten a chance to get one yet.
Posted: 14 Jun 2017, 16:51
by mr_a500
Mr.Nobody wrote: Can we merge the two threads into one?
If not, at least one of the thread titles should be changed. They both have exactly the same title (and a similar opening photo). I was getting confused about which one was which.
I also love sharp green monochrome - especially when it has a nice font and persistent phosphors. On my Kaypro II, when you backspace a line of text, the characters fade away slowly. You can still see the faded characters for a few seconds before they completely fade out. It's pretty neat.
Posted: 14 Jun 2017, 19:04
by zslane
Makes me miss my Kaypro 4...
Posted: 14 Jun 2017, 19:37
by mr_a500
Kaypro 4 - the one with the hard drive, right? I have a Kaypro II and "New 2".
(not the 2, 2/84 or 2X... insane Kaypro model numbers!)
Speaking of glowing screens, I'd love to have a vector terminal.
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Posted: 14 Jun 2017, 20:41
by zslane
No, the Kaypro 4 had two floppy drives. The one with the hard drive built in was, I believe, the Kaypro 10.