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POS Keyboards

Posted: 02 Apr 2018, 21:52
by c3rt
I'm currently unable to find much info on point-of-sale keyboards. I assume they would only work with cash registers but I may be wrong. Is it possible to use POS keyboards with a regular PC? I don't think they have plug n play capabilities even if they do connect with USB which removes the hassle of using an adapter/converter. And another problem is the programmed keys.
TLDR: I don't know much about POS keyboards, do they work with regular PC's?

Posted: 02 Apr 2018, 21:56
by Blaise170
Depends completely on the keyboard. A lot of POS boards are standard PS/2 or USB and so will usually work without much hassle on desktop PCs. Some have an odd connector but are relatively easy to convert. A few exist which use a completely proprietary connector and protocol but these are not as common. Also depends on region as a lot of Japanese POS keyboards used a PC98 connector and protocol but even Japanese machines are mostly PS/2 and USB now.

Posted: 02 Apr 2018, 22:03
by __red__
The more modern, the more likely as modern PoS terminals are typically PC compatible (in hardware at least).

Older PoS systems are not compatible:
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Posted: 03 Apr 2018, 07:42
by c3rt
Blaise170 wrote: A lot of POS boards are standard PS/2 or USB and so will usually work without much hassle on desktop PCs. Some have an odd connector but are relatively easy to convert.
Alright, thanks for the info!
__red__ wrote: Older PoS systems are not compatible:
Ha! Gave me a laugh, and I just noticed the Budweiser logo on the upper left edge, holy shit I forgot they were that old :D

Posted: 03 Apr 2018, 08:06
by kbdfr
I have been using a Tipro POS keyboard as my daily driver for more than six years now (on off-the shelf Windows PCs).

They are freely programmable (meaning you can put anything, including Unicode or macros, on absolutely any key) with Windows (caveat: 32-bit if they have a PS/2 controller, 64-bit if they have a USB controller). The programmed configuration being saved in a non-volatile memory in the keyboard itself, once programmed they can be used with any OS without requiring any software nor installation, as they register as a standard keyboard.

Proudly showing off:
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Note that my keyboard assembly is composed of 3 modules: a staggered unit in the middle and two 64 key matrix units:

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Caveat: do not just buy anything Tipro without asking first, as there always are a few tricky things to be considered.

Edit: Tipro keyboards have plate-mounted Cherry MX black switches.

Posted: 03 Apr 2018, 19:19
by c3rt
kbdfr wrote: Edit: Tipro keyboards have plate-mounted Cherry MX black switches.
Actually never heard of Tipro till now. That keyboard is amazing itself but I just can't seem to figure out the layout! Thought it was Colemak at first, probably not Dvorak... well I'm just happy being a QWERTY user :shock:

Posted: 03 Apr 2018, 19:21
by Blaise170
c3rt wrote:
kbdfr wrote: Edit: Tipro keyboards have plate-mounted Cherry MX black switches.
Actually never heard of Tipro till now. That keyboard is amazing itself but I just can't seem to figure out the layout! Thought it was Colemak at first, probably not Dvorak... well I'm just happy being a QWERTY user :shock:
AZERTY is the most common layout on French keyboards.

Posted: 04 Apr 2018, 06:26
by kbdfr
Yes, it's the (as for now) standard French layout.

Which of course doesn't matter here, because as said you can freely program it the way you like (on 4 levels!).
Spoiler:
You could for example program your spacebar on level 3 to shutdown the computer.
Or add (as I did) the specific German characters. Or cyrillic characters if you like.
Or a key to tell Word to print the current page.
Or a key to write both the opening and closing brackets and then put the cursor between them.
Or assign keys to special functions of a program (I find "reopen closed tab" very useful in Firefox).

Posted: 04 Apr 2018, 15:25
by Blaise170
The Cherry POS keyboards (e.g. G80-8113) also have nice software. Not sure if it's as good as Tipro's, but alas.