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A Comparison of SSKs
Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 18:42
by elecplus
There are many PN associated with SSKs. I present to you some that I have had in the past.
IBM 1391472

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IBM 1395100

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IBM 1392464

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IBM 1370475

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Lexmark 1397961

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Re: A Comparison of SSKs
Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 18:44
by elecplus
This is what they usually look like when they come in.

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Re: A Comparison of SSKs
Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 20:13
by Scarpia
*droooooooool...*
Re: A Comparison of SSKs
Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 20:23
by Dingster
SSKs are so nice, too bad ISO is hard to come by with these

Re: A Comparison of SSKs
Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 20:32
by depletedvespene
Dingster wrote: 18 Jun 2019, 20:23
SSKs are so nice, too bad ISO is hard to come by with these
Indeed. I had to convert mine from ANSI to ISO:
(this is beside the... hostile... lettering, of course

)
Re: A Comparison of SSKs
Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 20:34
by Dingster
Cant see any hostile lettering on that

Re: A Comparison of SSKs
Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 20:55
by Guchay

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One of the most unique ssks next to the displaywrite IMO. Wanted to sell it originally, but I fell in love with it for some reason(story of my life), and has been my daily driver ever since although I own more expensive and subjectively "better" keyboards.
My OG description:
Despite common knowledge, Unicomp did in fact produce Space Saving versions of the IBM Model M up until 2007([PN: UNIO4C6](
https://imgur.com/a/lS2qrX7)). They were created out of spare parts IBM gave Unicomp when they acquired their tooling and resources to create Model Ms. So essentially, you get the exact same IBM Model M SSKs produced in the early 90s but created 10 years later. Interesting features of these keyboards is the ISO layout with split left shift and an ISO enter. ISO versions of the SSK are very rare as most of IBMs keyboards were sold in the United States instead of European countries. This keyboard also has the same two piece keycaps that came with Model Ms but has blue sub-legends for the number pad row instead of the typically black. Sadly the SSK variants will most likely never be produced again despite Unicomps teasers and interests of creating them. New tooling and production costs of creating these keyboards would likely outweigh the potential profits as most Unicomp keyboards are actually sold to companies rather than to consumers. Also, the people that work at Unicomp are most likely at retirement age or have already retired which makes this even more unlikely to happen. I wish I could keep this keyboard but I’m not a big fan of the ISO layout so I’d rather have it go to someone that would appreciate it more than I would.
Re: A Comparison of SSKs
Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 21:01
by depletedvespene
Guchay wrote: 18 Jun 2019, 20:55
wri63nwovqk21.jpg
One of the most unique ssks next to the displaywrite IMO. Wanted to sell it originally, but I fell in love with it for some reason(story of my life), and has been my daily driver ever since although I own more expensive and subjectively "better" keyboards.
My OG description:
Despite common knowledge, Unicomp did in fact produce Space Saving versions of the IBM Model M up until 2007([PN: UNIO4C6](
https://imgur.com/a/lS2qrX7)). They were created out of spare parts IBM gave Unicomp when they acquired their tooling and resources to create Model Ms. So essentially, you get the exact same IBM Model M SSKs produced in the early 90s but created 10 years later. Interesting features of these keyboards is the ISO layout with split left shift and an ISO enter. ISO versions of the SSK are very rare as most of IBMs keyboards were sold in the United States instead of European countries. This keyboard also has the same two piece keycaps that came with Model Ms but has blue sub-legends for the number pad row instead of the typically black. Sadly the SSK variants will most likely never be produced again despite Unicomps teasers and interests of creating them. New tooling and production costs of creating these keyboards would likely outweigh the potential profits as most Unicomp keyboards are actually sold to companies rather than to consumers. Also, the people that work at Unicomp are most likely at retirement age or have already retired which makes this even more unlikely to happen. I wish I could keep this keyboard but I’m not a big fan of the ISO layout so I’d rather have it go to someone that would appreciate it more than I would.
Fantastic looking US ISO keyboard, indeed. If you don't want it, I'll happily trade it for a US ANSI SSK!
Do you have a picture of the SSK's back side? (I'll add the one from the keyboard I posted above when I get home)
Re: A Comparison of SSKs
Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 21:04
by elecplus
41G3601 is the PN for UK ISO in Industrial Grey.
http://i.imgur.com/Ei4Od7y.jpg
Re: A Comparison of SSKs
Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 21:07
by Guchay
depletedvespene wrote: 18 Jun 2019, 21:01
Guchay wrote: 18 Jun 2019, 20:55
wri63nwovqk21.jpg
One of the most unique ssks next to the displaywrite IMO. Wanted to sell it originally, but I fell in love with it for some reason(story of my life), and has been my daily driver ever since although I own more expensive and subjectively "better" keyboards.
My OG description:
Despite common knowledge, Unicomp did in fact produce Space Saving versions of the IBM Model M up until 2007([PN: UNIO4C6](
https://imgur.com/a/lS2qrX7)). They were created out of spare parts IBM gave Unicomp when they acquired their tooling and resources to create Model Ms. So essentially, you get the exact same IBM Model M SSKs produced in the early 90s but created 10 years later. Interesting features of these keyboards is the ISO layout with split left shift and an ISO enter. ISO versions of the SSK are very rare as most of IBMs keyboards were sold in the United States instead of European countries. This keyboard also has the same two piece keycaps that came with Model Ms but has blue sub-legends for the number pad row instead of the typically black. Sadly the SSK variants will most likely never be produced again despite Unicomps teasers and interests of creating them. New tooling and production costs of creating these keyboards would likely outweigh the potential profits as most Unicomp keyboards are actually sold to companies rather than to consumers. Also, the people that work at Unicomp are most likely at retirement age or have already retired which makes this even more unlikely to happen. I wish I could keep this keyboard but I’m not a big fan of the ISO layout so I’d rather have it go to someone that would appreciate it more than I would.
Fantastic looking US ISO keyboard, indeed. If you don't want it, I'll happily trade it for a US ANSI SSK!
Do you have a picture of the SSK's back side? (I'll add the one from the keyboard I posted above when I get home)
http://imgur.com/gallery/LqSKDym
Re: A Comparison of SSKs
Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 21:12
by depletedvespene
Woah. Unicomp even retained the IBM part number on this (1394047). Had I known back then, I wouldn't have scoured for SSKs on eBay in the first place!
(ok, who are we kidding, I'd have bought at Unicomp AND scoured on eBay, too).
Re: A Comparison of SSKs
Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 23:35
by hansichen
And the German version 41G3604:
There should be a lot of different languages as well. These are industrial SSK part numbers as well:
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Feature Part Number
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Space-saving Industrial Keyboard (84-key)
English (U.K.) 6889 41G3566
Swedish 2768 41G3567
French 6891 41G3568
German 6892 41G3569
Italian 2769 41G3570
Spanish 6894 41G3571
Belgian 6896 41G3572
Turkish 6897 41G3573
Dutch 6898 41G3574
Swiss/German/French 2772 41G3575
English (U.S.) (EMEA) 2767 41G3565
Source:
https://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/print ... _locale=en
This numbering scheme for layouts/languages should generally apply for many Model M keyboards.
Re: A Comparison of SSKs
Posted: 19 Jun 2019, 02:23
by elecplus
Thank you for that list and link!
Re: A Comparison of SSKs
Posted: 19 Jun 2019, 03:12
by depletedvespene
As promised: pictures of both my SSK keyboards, front and back (green BIC for reference).

- XXK and SSK (front side).
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- XXK and SSK (back side).
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The above was ANSI and I had it converted to ISO. It came with 1-piece keycaps (which are safely stored); the replacement set is composed of Unicomp blanks (plus the two HRI keycaps) and a large order from Cindy's.
The below was ANSI... and still is. All non-alphas
(except one - take a wild guess as to which one is it) are OG, while the alphas are a custom dye-sub job with my Iberoamerican layout that I keep procrastinating writing about.
Re: A Comparison of SSKs
Posted: 19 Jun 2019, 03:35
by depletedvespene
elecplus wrote: 18 Jun 2019, 18:42
There are many PN associated with SSKs. I present to you some that I have had in the past.
IBM 1391472
IBM 1391472.JPG
IBM 1395100
IBM 1395100.JPG
IBM 1392464
IBM 1392464.JPG
IBM 1370475
IBM 1370475.JPG
Lexmark 1397961
Lexmark 1397961.JPG
Come to think of it, didn't you have at some point a terminal SSK, too?
Re: A Comparison of SSKs
Posted: 19 Jun 2019, 03:40
by depletedvespene
hansichen wrote: 18 Jun 2019, 23:35
There should be a lot of different languages as well. These are industrial SSK part numbers as well:
Code: Select all
Feature Part Number
------- -----------
Space-saving Industrial Keyboard (84-key)
English (U.K.) 6889 41G3566
Swedish 2768 41G3567
French 6891 41G3568
German 6892 41G3569
Italian 2769 41G3570
Spanish 6894 41G3571
Belgian 6896 41G3572
Turkish 6897 41G3573
Dutch 6898 41G3574
Swiss/German/French 2772 41G3575
English (U.S.) (EMEA) 2767 41G3565
It does not escape notice that this list of languages is shorter than what was usual for IBM. Meaning that finding, say "Belgian" or "Latin American" industrial SSKs will be as difficult as locating a technetium mine.
Re: A Comparison of SSKs
Posted: 19 Jun 2019, 03:54
by snacksthecat
Here is my industrial
1395682 (industrial, USA)
