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Group Buy - ABANDONED - Model M/F APL keycaps or Regular Keycaps (EU ONLY)
Posted: 01 May 2020, 01:35
by kmnov2017
Looking for 5 to 7 people (no more for now, as I don't want the order to run into several hundreds of euros) to participate in a group buy for model M APL Keycaps with orange sublegends. These are unicomp repros and in ANSI style with English legends and DOES NOT include the space-bar.

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The keycap sets should cost around 50 euros including shipping, customs and VAT. Shipping is from the US to Germany. Shipment from me to you will be extra (4 to 8 euros depending on the destination country).
The following options are also available
Blank ANSI keycap set - 37 euros

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Blank ANSI keycap set 122 keys - 45 euros
Printed ANSI keycap set - 45 euros

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Printed Blue Keycaps (37 Keys) - 55 euros

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Japanese Keyset including the elusive split right shift! - 50 euros

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Space-bar - 5 euros (only when ordered in combination with any of the above options)
PayPal fees extra.
PM me if you are interested.
Re: EUROPE ONLY - Model M APL keycaps
Posted: 01 May 2020, 03:01
by gnhuy91
count me in! btw is the caps abs doubleshot?
Re: EUROPE ONLY - Model M APL keycaps
Posted: 01 May 2020, 03:04
by JP!
I take it you must have a source for these since Unicomp stopped producing the orange APL keys.
Re: EUROPE ONLY - Model M APL keycaps
Posted: 01 May 2020, 09:57
by kmnov2017
gnhuy91 wrote: 01 May 2020, 03:01
count me in! btw is the caps abs doubleshot?
No, all model M keycaps are dye sublimated.
Also, this group buy is only for folks in Europe (EU states only).
Re: EUROPE ONLY - Model M APL keycaps
Posted: 01 May 2020, 09:58
by kmnov2017
JP! wrote: 01 May 2020, 03:04
I take it you must have a source for these since Unicomp stopped producing the orange APL keys.
The source is unicomp, I was also under the impression they had stopped making these. But they wrote to me, they will.
Re: Updated options - Model M APL keycaps or Regular Keycaps (EU ONLY)
Posted: 01 May 2020, 17:35
by kmnov2017
Added additional options
Re: Group Buy - Updated options - Model M APL keycaps or Regular Keycaps (EU ONLY)
Posted: 03 May 2020, 01:05
by kmnov2017
Bump
Re: Group Buy - Updated options - Model M APL keycaps or Regular Keycaps (EU ONLY)
Posted: 03 May 2020, 10:41
by daedalus
One thing worth pointing out is that the blue and orange APL keycaps have different layouts for different APL implementations. The orange ones are for IBM APL2, whereas the blue ones are for Dyalog APL. It may be helpful to understand this distinction if you are trying to request that Unicomp produces more of the orange ones.
Re: Group Buy - Updated options - Model M APL keycaps or Regular Keycaps (EU ONLY)
Posted: 03 May 2020, 15:23
by depletedvespene
daedalus wrote: 03 May 2020, 10:41
One thing worth pointing out is that the blue and orange APL keycaps have different layouts for different APL implementations. The orange ones are for IBM APL2, whereas the blue ones are for Dyalog APL. It may be helpful to understand this distinction if you are trying to request that Unicomp produces more of the orange ones.
I don't mean to be
that guy, but the APL sublegends are desirable for their decorative qualities, not because many of us might program in APL...
Re: Group Buy - Updated options - Model M APL keycaps or Regular Keycaps (EU ONLY)
Posted: 03 May 2020, 15:32
by kmnov2017
depletedvespene wrote: 03 May 2020, 15:23
daedalus wrote: 03 May 2020, 10:41
One thing worth pointing out is that the blue and orange APL keycaps have different layouts for different APL implementations. The orange ones are for IBM APL2, whereas the blue ones are for Dyalog APL. It may be helpful to understand this distinction if you are trying to request that Unicomp produces more of the orange ones.
I don't mean to be
that guy, but the APL sublegends are desirable for their decorative qualities, not because many of us might program in APL...
Same for me, I am buying them for the novelty. I have zero interest to know what the differences between APL and APL2 are.
Re: Group Buy - Updated options - Model M APL keycaps or Regular Keycaps (EU ONLY)
Posted: 03 May 2020, 16:11
by daedalus
depletedvespene wrote: 03 May 2020, 15:23
daedalus wrote: 03 May 2020, 10:41
One thing worth pointing out is that the blue and orange APL keycaps have different layouts for different APL implementations. The orange ones are for IBM APL2, whereas the blue ones are for Dyalog APL. It may be helpful to understand this distinction if you are trying to request that Unicomp produces more of the orange ones.
I don't mean to be
that guy, but the APL sublegends are desirable for their decorative qualities, not because many of us might program in APL...
The reason I point it out is that it may make it easier to explain to Unicomp what you are looking for

Re: Group Buy - Updated options - Model M APL keycaps or Regular Keycaps (EU ONLY)
Posted: 03 May 2020, 16:30
by depletedvespene
daedalus wrote: 03 May 2020, 16:11
depletedvespene wrote: 03 May 2020, 15:23
daedalus wrote: 03 May 2020, 10:41
One thing worth pointing out is that the blue and orange APL keycaps have different layouts for different APL implementations. The orange ones are for IBM APL2, whereas the blue ones are for Dyalog APL. It may be helpful to understand this distinction if you are trying to request that Unicomp produces more of the orange ones.
I don't mean to be
that guy, but the APL sublegends are desirable for their decorative qualities, not because many of us might program in APL...
The reason I point it out is that it may make it easier to explain to Unicomp what you are looking for
Frankly, I think Unicomp itself might not be able to tell the difference and just go "Oh, they're not the same,
besides the color?!"
Re: Group Buy - Updated options - Model M APL keycaps or Regular Keycaps (EU ONLY)
Posted: 03 May 2020, 16:41
by daedalus
Oh, they do:
https://support.pckeyboard.com/knowledg ... article=73
They don't have the older layout listed in their KB. Whether they will make it on request, or print the newer version with orange legends is another question

Re: Group Buy - Updated options - Model M/F APL keycaps or Regular Keycaps (EU ONLY)
Posted: 03 May 2020, 21:27
by grasshopper
If you guys are only buying APL keycaps for aesthetic reasons, then you might want to check out Unicomp's US International layout that is also two tone.
Unfortunately, it's not as pretty as the APL set. But it is a genuinely useful layout.
Re: Group Buy - Updated options - Model M/F APL keycaps or Regular Keycaps (EU ONLY)
Posted: 04 May 2020, 12:14
by kmnov2017
More options added.
Re: Group Buy - Updated options - Model M/F APL keycaps or Regular Keycaps (EU ONLY)
Posted: 04 May 2020, 21:24
by kmnov2017
Japanese key set added
Re: Group Buy - Updated options - Model M/F APL keycaps or Regular Keycaps (EU ONLY)
Posted: 12 May 2020, 00:10
by kmnov2017
Bump
Re: Group Buy - Updated options - Model M/F APL keycaps or Regular Keycaps (EU ONLY)
Posted: 14 May 2020, 23:38
by kmnov2017
Bump
Re: Group Buy - Updated options - Model M/F APL keycaps or Regular Keycaps (EU ONLY)
Posted: 29 May 2020, 11:26
by kmnov2017
Final bump, if I don't get enough interest by this weekend. I will abandon this group buy.
Re: Group Buy - Updated options - Model M/F APL keycaps or Regular Keycaps (EU ONLY)
Posted: 07 Jun 2020, 14:08
by kmnov2017
I didn't receive enough interest. Those who did express interest, never paid. This group buy stands abandoned.