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[Pay it forward] O-ring sampler.

Posted: 16 Jul 2012, 00:10
by Djuzuh
Hi !

I have an O-ring sampler with the 3 orings WASD sells, and the 2 landing pad EK sells (5 of each).

I have now tested them, and don't need them anymore, so I'm willing to give them away.

Say "I want in" in this thread and you'll enter the give away. The winner will be chosen via random.org.

I'll pay for the shipping.

All I ask you to do is to post a review somewhere of each orings after you had them for two weaks, and link your review here.

I'd appreciate it if you then give something away (like the oring sampler again :P) to the community again (which is the idea of a PIF). But only if you want to, and whenever you like to do so. I don't want you to feel obligated.

Everybody is accepted in the contest.

Edit: I will end this next saturday (21/7/2012)

Posted: 16 Jul 2012, 01:21
by thegunner100
Where's your review? xD

There are a couple for factors that will affect your experience with the o-rings and landing pads:
Switch Type - o-rings will be a little bit more noticeable on linear switches than tactile
Keycap thickness - Affects how the bottoming out will sound. The thicker it is, the more it will dampen.
Keycap Profile - Affects how much of a difference the o-ring travel reduction will make.
Pcb/Plate mounting - Affects how the switch will feel and sound with the o-rings.

50A-R - Crisp feeling, decent clack reduction and .04mm of travel reduction.

40A-R - Slightly softer than the 50As, very good clack reduction, and also .04mm of travel reduction.

40A-L - Same as the 40A-R, except with .02mm travel. reduction instead of .04mm. I don't like them, they feel a little weird to me. Millage may vary with the keycap profile. With filco/SP profiled keys, the 40A-L makes the key feel cherry profiled.

EK Soft & firm - Absolutely disgusting. Lots of travel reduction and the bottoming out with both of them is really mushy. Does reduce bottoming out noise at least.

My preferred setup is 40A-R on MX blues with imsto's thick cherry profiled keys. The thick keys and noise reduction of the 40A-R nearly eliminates bottoming out noise and allows for maximum clickiness! I use my two packs of 40A-R on my two MX blue CM Quickfies and a pack of 50A-R on my mx brown FIlco MJ1 only because i don't have a third pack of 40A.

Grats to whoever gets the pack! It's a nice way to quickly feel how the o-rings feel and sound, but you'd need to get a full pack to truly appreciate them.

Posted: 16 Jul 2012, 08:05
by Djuzuh

Posted: 19 Jul 2012, 21:04
by cinch
i want in and thanks for the generous offer!

Posted: 20 Jul 2012, 00:26
by Djuzuh
cinch wrote:i want in and thanks for the generous offer!
We have our first, and potentionnally only participant ! :(

Posted: 02 Aug 2012, 01:38
by cinch
received the pack from Djuzuh. it came in a standard mail envelope and the items in one of those small plastic sealable bags.
it came with 5 each of 50A-R, 40A-R, 40A-L (from WASDkeyboards.com) and the Soft and Firm Pads (from elitekeyboards.com). first i thought the shorter (0.2mm) o-rings were missing, because they looked the same as the other red ones. After looking closely I saw the difference: the ring isn't as thick and they aren't as tall (yet one has to really look closely).
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To test them out, i put them on my brand new Filco TKL with MX Reds. The slimmer soft rings on the top QWERT keys, the thicker soft ones on ASDFG and the harder ones on YXCVB.

General impressions compared to without O-Rings:
  • They significantly alter the feel of each key press.
    With the ring inside of the key cap, when you press down, it will come to a halt sooner, since the height of the ring bumps against the top of the switch sooner.
    In essence, you're bottoming out sooner and have reduced key travel.
    I consider this attribute as negative. I consider it more fun when the key reaches further down.

    The main reason for O-Rings is their sound reduction. These rings are soft and cause less vibration than the hard plastic of regular key caps against switches. How much softer? Considerably! It's mostly in the high frequency range: That Loudish "Clack" of plastic clashing. Of course the clack can bounce against walls and you'll hear the reverb.
    With O-Rings it still sounds like a clack, yet significantly quieter, more muffled sounding with many of the higher frequencies gone. Instead of a CLICK-CLACK it's a muffled clickety-click.
Enough basics, onto comparing them:
Pads from Elitekeyboards: Don't like them at all! They make the keys feel mushy like rubber domes. I tried them a couple of times but stopped reviewing them, as there's no way i'm going to be using them.

O-Rings: these are really hard to compare. each has their own unique feel, yet they are very similar. when i compare them, overall there's not much difference! i think it comes down to personal preference but here are some differences i found:
red 40A-R (0.4mm): has a nice soft landing, which feels slightly springy. however this could be interpreted as a slightly "mushy" landing (too soft). others may love it. it also removes the most noise (very slightly).
black 50A-R (0.4mm): more distinct harder landing. in terms of bottoming out: feels the most as without using o-rings. not as good of noise reduction as the other two however. the harder rubber can't absorb as much.
red 40A-L (0.2mm): in terms of feeling, this is like a hybrid between the other two: has a distinct soft feel like the other red, yet because the rubber is thinner it feels harder. due to the shorter height, this is my favourite of the three, as you get the most travel distance. also it's not as "mushy", yet still a soft landing.

hope this helps =)
feedback welcome
i think i'll order two bags of 40A-L.
shout out to Djuzuh for his nice gift! i'll be forwarding the favor.

if you want this bag, reply with "bag please" and i'll send it for free. i'd appreciate a review and that you send it further when you're done with it. if there's multiple people i'll pick one randomnly.

Posted: 02 Aug 2012, 02:00
by RougeRambo
im in. will pay something forward at somepoint!

Posted: 02 Aug 2012, 19:40
by cinch
RougeRambo wrote:im in. will pay something forward at somepoint!
noted. i'll wait 10 more days (aug 12) to see if more people are interested.

Posted: 04 Aug 2012, 22:02
by TDub
I want in! I just made my own and it has been requested that I compare the DIY versions to the real thing, description found here: http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/diy- ... t3630.html

Posted: 08 Aug 2012, 20:20
by RiGS
I would love to try them as well.

Posted: 08 Aug 2012, 20:22
by cinch
3 in, 4 days to go until one get's picked.

Re: AW: [Pay it forward] O-ring sampler.

Posted: 08 Aug 2012, 22:08
by bone
Bag please :grin:

I'm looking forward to try them out; if I have fortune on my side ;-)

Posted: 08 Aug 2012, 22:16
by Djuzuh
How come I only got 1 interested, and you get 3 :P.

Posted: 12 Aug 2012, 23:07
by cinch
0: RougeRambo
1: TDub
2: RiGS
3: bone

random number between 0 and 3:

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and the winner is... *drumroll*

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grats bone!
please pm me your address.

Posted: 13 Aug 2012, 21:32
by RiGS
Congrats bone!

Re: AW: [Pay it forward] O-ring sampler.

Posted: 13 Aug 2012, 22:30
by bone
Thank you :-)

After testing I will send the rings to the next lucky person.

Re: AW: [Pay it forward] O-ring sampler.

Posted: 07 Apr 2013, 14:55
by bone
Guess what I found today.
Totally forgot about this. Shame on me :cry:

You can register your interest for 1 week.
Then I will pick one lucky guy by random.org and send it out.

Regards

Posted: 16 Apr 2013, 20:59
by Halvar
I'm interested in trying these.

Cheers Halvar

Re: AW: [Pay it forward] O-ring sampler.

Posted: 17 Apr 2013, 08:12
by bone
I will leave this open till the end of the week.

Posted: 17 Apr 2013, 10:20
by JBert
Shouldn't this be moved to the "sinklist" part of the forum?
Mr. Interface was quite successful in keeping things going.

Posted: 22 Apr 2013, 14:58
by bone
@JBert
100% agree.
Unfortunately I'm traveling a lot at the moment so I will have no time to organize this.
I also don't know if it is worth it, because there was not so much interest.


Now the exciting part:
random.org will pick the lucky guy.

0: RougeRambo
1: TDub
2: RiGS
3: Halvar

Result: 0

Congratulation RougeRambo!

I will sent out the samples as soon as you reply to my PM.

I will post my review of the samples by the end of the week.

Regards,
Bone

Posted: 22 Apr 2013, 15:07
by RougeRambo
W00T!

will try em out for a few weeks then pay em forward via random.org

will be testing them with mx reds.

pm will be with you by the end of the day