deskthority

Come on Froom!

Hehe ! What a first day !

The problem with the Tour is :
You spend close to a bloody month watching it to see who wins ..
And you think you know who won .....
But next year,or the year after, it turns out he was just as clean as all the others before and after him !

It's not like baseball where stats are stats and are irrefutable !

Like Bjarne Riis said : * I've never been tested positive ! *

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTmoIsSt ... C6D3FD074C

I stopped watching this shit years ago, because it's about who takes doping best and manages to conceal it, until technology catches up.

dito.

Instead of taking drugs, they should equip their bikes with engines ...

I still like to watch the Tour, especially the mountain-stages,
just turn down the sound when they start to talk about doping

Ah, all those hypocritical discussions about doping. Cycling and doping are a golden combination and has been so since the early days of the sport. And now people act as if it was totally unexpected that most of the cyclist are heavily doped.
I enjoy the Tour de France just as much as ever.

BTW, I don't think that there is any "clean" professional sport if there are appreciable amounts of money to be earned and if doping helps to get you to the top.

Well said Kurkk !
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boosting_%28doping%29
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lasse_Vir%C3%A9n

Elite-sports aren't healthy !

http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/gesellsc ... 08565.html

Of course none of them is "clean" but IMO it's not about who is winning, it's about beautiful landscapes and discovering places, anyway I don't watch any cycling competition apart from this really.

Pointing to other sports is a hypocrite logical fallacy. It's like arguing killing or stealing is ok, because... people kill and steal - you know it and cannot prevent it - so you enjoy killing and stealing, pah! Right. Doping and sports cannot, ever, go together, and people who are caught, are indeed cheats, and not people going for level playing field. And cheats make a sport worthless and corrupted. Doping and sport can never go together because you can never make everything legal, as people would kill themselves and the sport becomes bio-technical. And if you make just some doping legal, still more people kill themselves, as you just create another, more dangerous barrier which people can ignore (i.e. it solves nothing).

I completely agree with webwit's opinion.

All this doping stuff aside, watching the tour is super boring.... whats so interessting about it?

The beautiful landscape!

They should leave the cycle race away and just show the landscape.

Yeah, uhm, the beautiful scenery.

nice pic

not sure exactly what I see in it, just like watching. Helicopter views of the landscape are nice mind

Instead of watching the tour, I'm just biking instead. At around 2600 km right now on my "tour de japon*.

At least another 1000 km to go till I reach my finish in Wakkanai, Hokkaido .

be nice but the bloody massive pilon and cables.

Oh, there are more...I time lapse while riding -> http://www.flickr.com/photos/triplehaat ... 265663632/

Over 5000 photos from that day...

Not the most picturesque part you're now in. Hey let me ask you a practical question. How do you haul all of your stuff? Or did you only take your toothbrush? In other words, where do you hide your 122 key Model F?

Well I carry a 10kg bag with basic toiletries, 1 change of clothes, pair of shoes, laptop and some extra biking clothes/supplies for when the weather turns.

Everything else I send a few days ahead of me by Takkyubin, quite cheaply too.

I brought along a 122 Model F for hasu

Ah, the Tour de France.

Where everyone fills themselves with all sorts of drugs to go faster, and that's nearly accepted, yet actually improving the bicycle while using a natural human is not.

Meanwhile, I have used a substance that is on the WADA list, with my slow-ass recumbent trike. (Riding home from a restaurant with a couple beers in me. Alcohol isn't banned for cycling - just motorsports and aviation, IIRC, maybe archery - but it is banned for something. )

As far as I know they don't take drugs anymore. They fill in some special racing blood instead and change back to normal when the race is over and the doping test is done.

they replace their blood on rest days. mental.