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Making MX Reds out of MX Browns + Blacks?
Posted: 06 Dec 2014, 23:40
by Gentleman
Hello,
Title - is it possible?
Wanted to use the Springs from the Mx-Browns and the linear from the Blacks.
Any Downsides if it is possible?
Cheers Gentleman
Posted: 06 Dec 2014, 23:57
by Laser
Should be all right, the only downside is the assembly time.
Posted: 07 Dec 2014, 00:02
by Gentleman
It shouldt take too long all after all but I found another problem: My Keyboard has LED, so I would have to solder, and buying / Learning soldering - I don't think so
But thank you for the fast reply

Posted: 07 Dec 2014, 00:04
by Laser
Yes, more visuals, less modding
But you should learn to solder - it's a good skill to learn
(while ruining your most expensive keyboard and giving yourself a chance to try other keyboards, probably without leds)
Posted: 07 Dec 2014, 02:00
by IvanIvanovich
Used to do that back in the day before MX reds were common switch. Only downside is time and effort required to do it.
If you want to try something more interesting, put linear slider with clear springs. You get similar actuation force, but then it ramps up in force a lot so unlikely to bottom out and very rapid reset.
Posted: 07 Dec 2014, 11:14
by Gentleman
Well Yeah, I think I will give it a try in my free time before Christmas.
Watching some videos how to de-solder the LED'S, although im not sure if I'm willing to solder them again - I don't find myself turning the LED's on alot.
So - Does anyone have a nice tutorial on how to desolder the LED's?
Since I never opened a Keyboard - I just have to put off all the keycaps and the remove the screws and I can put the plate out of the case?
For Soldering Equipment: Anything I should take of when buying the Equipment? i.e how big the top of the solderer is or smth like that?
@ IvanIvanovich: I only have an old G80-1180 (blacks + 1 grey for the spacebar) and the Poker 2 with browns ( bought for 60 at amazon Warehouse, was the cheapest at this time I have to admit

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Edit:
In this Video (
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luHI4UjkyCY) at 7:50 he does say that you have to remove all the remaining solder - i fI dont Replace the LED's, is there any need for it?
Posted: 07 Dec 2014, 16:25
by IvanIvanovich
What is G80-1180? I have never heard of this model.
For solder iron, I have Yihua 936. It's very cheap OK solder iron. For remove components you'll also want some kind of desolder pump. Use wick for whole keyboard will make you hate life I promise.
You can always only put led back on select key, like wasd for example... also could be a good time to choose a different color. led remove same way as any other through hole components.
Posted: 07 Dec 2014, 17:17
by Gentleman
http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_G80-1800
Okay, going to bid on a yihua 936 on ebay then, lett's see if I'm succesful
A Desolder pump costs like 5 €, so that is fine aswell i guess

Posted: 07 Dec 2014, 17:19
by scottc
Off-topic: Thanks for the tip Ivan, I've been looking for a moderately good temp-controlled iron and the Yihua seems fine.
Posted: 07 Dec 2014, 17:48
by Laser
[still kinda off-topic]
I use something like this:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Analog-solderin ... B000V8JYU8
It's analog, but i know at what points to set the temp knob, when i unsolder old keyboards (around 3.8/5) or when i solder (3.2/5); sure, it depends on the soldering material (to be) used.
Posted: 07 Dec 2014, 18:29
by Gentleman
btw, Why not Wick? I heard it is easier to use? and I'm "only" desoldering a 60 % keyboard

Posted: 07 Dec 2014, 18:44
by Gentleman
http://www.conrad.de/ce/de/product/5884 ... archDetail
I can get this one at the local Store, think I get this one on Monday

Posted: 07 Dec 2014, 18:47
by Laser
Looks good to me (you need that pump too).
BTW, you do realize you have to (un)solder not only the LEDs, but also all the switches from the Poker 2?
Posted: 07 Dec 2014, 18:55
by Gentleman
http://www.conrad.de/ce/de/product/5883 ... archDetail Or im getting this one, since I don't need it too often afterwards i guess - recommandations?
@ Laser actually I don't have to- I can open the switches without removing them, or is this not possible?
Edit: I just checked the Poker, but it seems i can get under the switch.
Posted: 07 Dec 2014, 19:06
by Laser
If it's Poker 2 with metal plate, you can't.
Posted: 07 Dec 2014, 19:11
by Gentleman
Urgh.... That actually sucks, because I have absolutely no experience with soldering.
Does anyone have a nice tutorial video or guide for it?
Posted: 07 Dec 2014, 19:15
by Laser
This guy is controversial, but his videos aren't:
(the youtube video description has actual 'chapter' links if you want to skip some sections)
Try your hand first on another - cheaper - PCB (not the Poker 2) and unsolder/solder some switches until you do it consistently well.
Or, sell your Poker and buy another with desired switch.
Or, get used to your Poker switches.