IBM 122-F ES to US ANSI - Lot of pictures

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Nuum

26 Jan 2015, 10:37

Nice pictures, the condition of the keyboard seems to be quite good, too!
Could you please put some of the photos in spoilers, so that the site doesn't jump around that much while loading all the pictures?

andrewjoy

26 Jan 2015, 10:40

Looks almost the same as mine but i have PF caps on the top rows of mine different form yours. And i kept the split + key as i find having a tab key on the numbered amazing :)

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Khers

26 Jan 2015, 10:47

Very nice work idollar, awesome documentation!

Do agree with Nuum though, it's quite frustrating when the page jumps around when all the images are loading :)

jacobolus

26 Jan 2015, 10:55

Nuum wrote: Could you please put some of the photos in spoilers, so that the site doesn't jump around that much while loading all the pictures?
Ugh, it’s so annoying that this site’s software doesn’t add automatically add a height attribute to images (or even let the user manually add one), which would allow the browser to lay the page out correctly before loading images.

[I’m not sure whether that feature exists in phpbb or not. I hate phpbb (and all the other popular forum software) with a passion. Mailing lists and newsgroups were so much better as communication system designs. Then the web ate the whole internet, and we wound up typing everything into little half-broken browser text boxes. Oh well.]

Anyway, I prefer if people don’t put their images in spoilers. Having to click click click click click in order to see them is more annoying than having the page reflow as it loads, IMO.

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idollar
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26 Jan 2015, 11:32

all,

Let me finish the posting first :-) I want to add information on my converter, hardware and software.

In my opinion, this should go to a section in the wiki. If we start taking pictures and posting our projects, we could built a good source of information for future projects.

If the posts stay here, I do not mind to change the posts to best match users' needs.

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Nuum

26 Jan 2015, 11:50

You can add the photos to the wiki yourself, it's just a little bit tedious to add all of them. A link page on the wiki to threads on forum doesn't make sense to me. I'd prefer to have the information directly on the wiki.

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seebart
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26 Jan 2015, 12:16

there are some new images for my desktop wallpaper collection!

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snoopy

26 Jan 2015, 14:19

seebart wrote: there are some new images for my desktop wallpaper collection!
I thought wallpaper is all about boobs

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Muirium
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26 Jan 2015, 14:22

Ah, Tinnie, you are missed!

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seebart
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26 Jan 2015, 14:22

snoopy wrote:
seebart wrote: there are some new images for my desktop wallpaper collection!
I thought wallpaper is all about boobs
:lol:

see that is proof of how crazy I am by now! Instead of good old fashioned soft porn wallpapers I choose keyboard wallpapers!

Where is this all going to end? :?

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Muirium
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26 Jan 2015, 14:31

I'm trying not to come up with a truly disgusting answer to that tempting question!

Anyway, I'm more into astronomy wallpapers. You can't have an image that's lower res than your display! Fortunately the Hubble Space Telescope doesn't disappoint.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carina_Ne ... indddd.jpg

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seebart
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26 Jan 2015, 14:40

Muirium wrote: I'm trying not to come up with a truly disgusting answer to that tempting question!
no need to answer, I would never violate anything that remotely looks like a keyboard, not even a rubber dome. :lol:

those Hubble images are nice but they scare me because they remind me of how tiny we are in the universe! We`re smaller than microbes by the X factor!

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idollar
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05 Feb 2015, 08:35

I have added some info on the SW that I use.
HW will be added also at a latter stage

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fohat
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05 Feb 2015, 15:05

I must really tip my hat to you. This guide is amazing and your photographs are truly lovely.

My own guide https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48786.0 from 2 years ago now seems incredibly crude by comparison.

Great work!

andrewjoy

05 Feb 2015, 16:41

lets start an ansi 122 F club

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idollar
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05 Feb 2015, 16:43

fohat wrote: I must really tip my hat to you. This guide is amazing and your photographs are truly lovely.

My own guide https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48786.0 from 2 years ago now seems incredibly crude by comparison.

Great work!
What ? The merit is all yours ! :-)

You inspired this tread (and others). You told me the puncher to use. You explained to me how to use the brackets to put the keyboard back together. You explained to me that I could ANSI my ISO. ...

Your guide is THE GUIDE in upper case. My pictures are only "lot of pictures" describing YOUR knowledge.

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idollar
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05 Feb 2015, 16:43

andrewjoy wrote: lets start an ansi 122 F club
Only if fohat is declared the chaiman :-)

andrewjoy

05 Feb 2015, 17:38

indeed, his thread give me many ideas for my 122 even if i did not paint it yet :) still thinking industrial grey

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Redmaus
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07 Feb 2015, 02:11

idollar wrote:
fohat wrote: I must really tip my hat to you. This guide is amazing and your photographs are truly lovely.

My own guide https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48786.0 from 2 years ago now seems incredibly crude by comparison.

Great work!
What ? The merit is all yours ! :-)

You inspired this tread (and others). You told me the puncher to use. You explained to me how to use the brackets to put the keyboard back together. You explained to me that I could ANSI my ISO. ...

Your guide is THE GUIDE in upper case. My pictures are only "lot of pictures" describing YOUR knowledge.
In a month once I have the time I am actually going to ANSI mod my Model F based of Fohats Knowledge as well.
One of the reasons I got a model F, I saw your guide and I saw the insides of this beast... So much metal, it seemed glorious to me. The keypress is amazing best I have ever felt and I recently got a cherry mx switch tester and the model F is hands down way better than all of then combined to me.

So yeah, Fohat you are the one who has inspired everybody to ANSI mod and use this keyboard.

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fohat
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07 Feb 2015, 02:23

Redmaus wrote:
So yeah, Fohat you are the one who has inspired everybody to ANSI mod and use this keyboard.
Aw, shucks, guys.

Soarer is the man. His Teensy converter firmware is the important thing.

With that, the ANSI conversion of a Model F is only a simple translation from an IBM bolt-mod (thanks to Sandy55 for that).

Sure, wrestling with the crusty old beasts is no walk in the park, but that is just manual labor.

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Redmaus
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07 Feb 2015, 02:45

fohat wrote:
Redmaus wrote:
So yeah, Fohat you are the one who has inspired everybody to ANSI mod and use this keyboard.
Aw, shucks, guys.

Soarer is the man. His Teensy converter firmware is the important thing.

With that, the ANSI conversion of a Model F is only a simple translation from an IBM bolt-mod (thanks to Sandy55 for that).

Sure, wrestling with the crusty old beasts is no walk in the park, but that is just manual labor.
Yeah but to be honest I did not even know that an ANSI or any layout mod was possible at all until I saw your guide.

andrewjoy

07 Feb 2015, 11:25

its just a shame you cannot use the hidden pads next to the nav cluster on a mdoel F 122 you can on a unsaver apparently

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idollar
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07 Feb 2015, 11:35

andrewjoy wrote: its just a shame you cannot use the hidden pads next to the nav cluster on a mdoel F 122 you can on a unsaver apparently
It seems that they are not connected:
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Redmaus
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07 Feb 2015, 20:20

idollar wrote:
andrewjoy wrote: its just a shame you cannot use the hidden pads next to the nav cluster on a mdoel F 122 you can on a unsaver apparently
It seems that they are not connected:
Would it be possible to solder new ones?

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idollar
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07 Feb 2015, 20:47

if possible the COTS IBM controller would not respond to them ...
What do you want to do with these new keys ?

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Redmaus
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07 Feb 2015, 22:17

idollar wrote: if possible the COTS IBM controller would not respond to them ...
What do you want to do with these new keys ?
I am mainly interested to because seeing these extra spots being used would look very unique and make the board itself much more valuable to some people. Although even if this would work, you would need 4 extra barrels and cut/drill out barrel holes in the plate. Imagining what it would look like right now, seems interesting. What if you had southwest or like northeast buttons on place on the board? I don't even know how you would use that, but it sure would be neat to have.

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Mal-2

08 Feb 2015, 03:10

idollar wrote: if possible the COTS IBM controller would not respond to them ...
What do you want to do with these new keys ?
It should respond if they're wired in parallel with other switches. Of course this means they wouldn't have unique functions of their own, but they might still be desirable as duplicates, or if someone wanted to ditch the tenkey section (and all the case work that would entail).

tinnie

08 Feb 2015, 16:53

Muirium wrote: Ah, Tinnie, you are missed!
What did I miss?

andrewjoy

08 Feb 2015, 17:22

tinnie wrote:
Muirium wrote: Ah, Tinnie, you are missed!
What did I miss?

he wants you to find more 62key model F's i think

and so do i :)

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vsev

08 Feb 2015, 18:05

I confirm that and add myself too !

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