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Posted: 02 Sep 2013, 11:53
by Muirium
The entire increase on the cost of the whole job should be paid by we 3 men of steel, of course. If that's the way we go.
Posted: 02 Sep 2013, 12:04
by matt3o
I'll make what everyone's asking. So full steel for muirium and zifle, mixed for mtl. I hope the others are still interested because they are worryingly silent.
If one drops, the whole castle drops. Sorry guys, but I really spent too much time on this. Hopefully I'll soon have a CNC milling machine and I may offer cheaper on-demand solutions (no steel though).
Posted: 02 Sep 2013, 12:25
by Zifle
matt3o wrote:you can have the steel plate, no problem with that since we already have the bottom in the same thickness (but you want it 3mm right?).
Yes, indeed, I'd want everything, but the switch plate, in 3mm.
I do hope as well, that neither of the others jump off. Have you tried contacting them directly?
Posted: 02 Sep 2013, 12:28
by matt3o
I'll post the final version in a bit and contact everyone short after.
Posted: 02 Sep 2013, 13:58
by Broadmonkey
Oh, I guess I am one of those being silent, sorry.
I have really thought about the bottom row and have decided on a 6.25 spacebar instead of the 7u as it's just going to annoy me. Can you make the bottom row on my plate to a 1.5, 1, 1.5, 6.25, 1.5, 1.25, 1, 1, 1?
Posted: 02 Sep 2013, 14:18
by matt3o
I don't know exactly why... but I thought this was relevant

Posted: 02 Sep 2013, 15:33
by matt3o
FINAL version!

- final.png (17.96 KiB) Viewed 4208 times
columns are material/thickness.
1) alu 1.5
2) steel 1.5
3) steel 3
4) alu 3
5) steel mirror finish 1.5
rows are users
Download the DWG from the first post and confirm your order!
Remember that you are the sole responsible for your design (even if I designed it for you). I can't give any guarantee that the keyboard is going to work.
Posted: 02 Sep 2013, 15:39
by Muirium
Understood. Thanks for all the work you've done on this Matt!
Checking mine now.
Posted: 02 Sep 2013, 15:40
by Broadmonkey
It must be one of the most appreciated beavers since you thought of it. I really appreciate your help and all your work, matt3o.
Posted: 02 Sep 2013, 15:42
by Zifle
It looks as though my switch plate is in 1.5mm alu, when I wanted 1.5mm steel D:
Or am I confusing myself for someone else? (Can't dl/view the dwg at work, and I get off in 10 mins regardless. I'll confirm my layers when I get home)
Posted: 02 Sep 2013, 16:06
by matt3o
Zifle wrote:It looks as though my switch plate is in 1.5mm alu, when I wanted 1.5mm steel D:
Or am I confusing myself for someone else? (Can't dl/view the dwg at work, and I get off in 10 mins regardless. I'll confirm my layers when I get home)
my bad. I'll put your plate in the steel col.
Posted: 02 Sep 2013, 16:11
by Muirium
Any chance of a final.pdf as well? I can't even figure out how to scroll in DraftSight (no joke) and its PDF export isn't working properly for me either. Haven't managed to get a good glimpse of my design on this big canvas yet!
Posted: 02 Sep 2013, 16:21
by matt3o
hint: middle click and pan, zoom with scroll wheel
Posted: 02 Sep 2013, 16:24
by Muirium
I have no middle click. But I did just figure out the "panning is tied to pointer location while zooming" trick. So now I'm zooming about the image like a grandma who's just figured out the tail comes out the top of the mouseā¦
This app is like an alternate reality!
Posted: 02 Sep 2013, 16:28
by matt3o
trash that damned
tragic magic mouse

Posted: 02 Sep 2013, 16:30
by Muirium
Never!!
Posted: 02 Sep 2013, 16:45
by Muirium
Okay, confirming row three. We are good to launch!
There's a lot of variety on show in this GB. The laser cutters will be convinced you are a Mad Keyboard Scientist with this one, professor.

Posted: 02 Sep 2013, 16:50
by matt3o
I was thinking more of this:
original post updated with Muirium's confirmation.
Posted: 02 Sep 2013, 16:53
by Muirium
You might want to update the OP with the layout order, too. I'm listed as #2 but my layout is 3rd down from the top on the .dwg for submission.
Posted: 02 Sep 2013, 16:57
by matt3o
oh shit!
Posted: 02 Sep 2013, 18:20
by mtl
matt3o wrote:Download the DWG from the first post and confirm your order!
Row 1 looks good. Thanks, matt3o!
Posted: 02 Sep 2013, 18:34
by matt3o
3 OK
4 to go
Posted: 02 Sep 2013, 18:45
by Zifle
Yep, I can confirm that mine is as it should be (when the plate is cut in 1.5 steel, I'm assuming you already made the modification in your local file).
I'll be looking forward to getting my wallet crushed tomorrow!
Posted: 02 Sep 2013, 18:52
by matt3o
yes already updated. your board is 100% steel.
Posted: 02 Sep 2013, 20:54
by Muirium
I noticed a little tiny something. This is the top of my mezzanine layer. I added shading to make it clearer where the metal is. The line I've highlighted is a bridge to nowhere:

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The other keyboards' port holes are all on layers which are adjacent to other layers on the sheet. My mezzanine however is next to open space. Should the line be there at all? Perhaps the mezzanine should swap places with the base layer just below it on the sheet.
Would now be a good time to ask for 5 mm radius corners on the keyboard instead of the current 3 mm? (Answer: YES! It is a bad time!) Would it make the steel too thin at the corners, especially in the mezzanine? Just a thought! I can live with 3 mm. I just took a ruler to my Apple keyboard and saw that 5 mm would match.
Posted: 02 Sep 2013, 22:09
by Broadmonkey
I checked mine and I think it looks correct.
Initially I only wanted a switch plate and a bottom plate, but I can go with steel sides.
Posted: 02 Sep 2013, 23:30
by matt3o
Muirium wrote:I noticed a little tiny something. This is the top of my mezzanine layer. I added shading to make it clearer where the metal is. The line I've highlighted is a bridge to nowhere:
Screen Shot 2013-09-02 at 07.32.46 pm.png
The other keyboards' port holes are all on layers which are adjacent to other layers on the sheet. My mezzanine however is next to open space. Should the line be there at all? Perhaps the mezzanine should swap places with the base layer just below it on the sheet.
thanks for pointing that out, I'll fix that but it's not really an issue (ie: it is going to work with or without it

)
Muirium wrote:Would now be a good time to ask for 5 mm radius corners on the keyboard instead of the current 3 mm? (Answer: YES! It is a bad time!) Would it make the steel too thin at the corners, especially in the mezzanine? Just a thought! I can live with 3 mm. I just took a ruler to my Apple keyboard and saw that 5 mm would match.
I'll make a try tomorrow, but I suspect 5mm is too wide.
Posted: 02 Sep 2013, 23:44
by Muirium
Thanks again Matt. It's a fine design in any case, I'm just challenging you again!
Posted: 03 Sep 2013, 03:21
by Vierax
matt3o wrote:Hopefully I'll soon have a CNC milling machine and I may offer cheaper on-demand solutions (no steel though).
Sounds nice ! 2014 will be the customised Keyboard case business year.
Posted: 03 Sep 2013, 08:58
by matt3o
Broadmonkey wrote:I checked mine and I think it looks correct.
Initially I only wanted a switch plate and a bottom plate, but I can go with steel sides.
that's right, do you want me to remove the sides?