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Re: What is your opinion on Keychron keyboards?

Posted: 11 Jan 2022, 07:56
by zrrion

Re: What is your opinion on Keychron keyboards?

Posted: 11 Jan 2022, 12:00
by Lynx_Carpathica
why does he keep doing this? What joy does he have by doing this? I am genuinely courious.
Also, why aren't theese topics being deleted alltogether?

Re: What is your opinion on Keychron keyboards?

Posted: 11 Jan 2022, 13:15
by Muirium
Lynx_Carpathica wrote: 11 Jan 2022, 12:00 why does he keep doing this? What joy does he have by doing this? I am genuinely courious.
One word: pagerank. He'll be paid (a pittance) for juicing the SEO of those sites he links, when he comes back to edit his posts, as he always does. It's nothing personal, just making search engines slightly worse, while we're supposed not to notice.
Lynx_Carpathica wrote: 11 Jan 2022, 12:00Also, why aren't theese topics being deleted alltogether?
No mods. No care from the new owner. When DT does 404 someday, maybe soon, come find me on Nexthority, if it's still running. I always go by the same handle.

Re: What is your opinion on Keychron keyboards?

Posted: 11 Jan 2022, 23:31
by hellothere
Muirium wrote: 11 Jan 2022, 13:15Come find me on Nexthority, if it's still running. I always go by the same handle.
But I find you here. :(

No offense to Redmaus and his work, but there are only 20 posts there. Also, while I'd probably get used to it, both the forum and wiki software Redmaus is using (forum's nodebb, I think, and the wiki's wiki.js) is significantly different from what's here (forum's phpBB and the wiki is MediaWiki).

Re: What is your opinion on Keychron keyboards?

Posted: 12 Jan 2022, 09:43
by Muirium
Indeed. I’d only jump ship when this one sinks. Which it may well, given the pathetic state of no moderators and zero interest by the new owner.

If DT goes dark, I’m guessing Nexthority suddenly livens up. Or we all scatter to the winds…

Re: What is your opinion on Keychron keyboards?

Posted: 12 Jan 2022, 12:08
by Lalaland124
Muirium wrote: 11 Jan 2022, 13:15 No mods. No care from the new owner. When DT does 404 someday, maybe soon, come find me on Nexthority, if it's still running. I always go by the same handle.
We need to make sure that in case this does happen and DT goes 404, we have some sort of backup for the wiki if there isn't one already.

Re: What is your opinion on Keychron keyboards?

Posted: 12 Jan 2022, 12:40
by Muirium
I'm no expert on how to do that, besides just the humble (and likely highly incomplete) Wayback Machine:

https://web.archive.org/web/20211104052 ... /Main_Page

Re: What is your opinion on Keychron keyboards?

Posted: 12 Jan 2022, 22:56
by Lynx_Carpathica
Well, whoever does Nextority, I hope he does not delte _my_ spam from there. :) I stole a few topics from here, so why not bring them over?

Re: What is your opinion on Keychron keyboards?

Posted: 12 Jan 2022, 23:47
by hellothere
Lalaland124 wrote: 12 Jan 2022, 12:08
Muirium wrote: 11 Jan 2022, 13:15 No mods. No care from the new owner. When DT does 404 someday, maybe soon, come find me on Nexthority, if it's still running. I always go by the same handle.
We need to make sure that in case this does happen and DT goes 404, we have some sort of backup for the wiki if there isn't one already.
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Exportin ... _of_a_wiki. Start now!

I'm not bothering to go back to the DT sale thread. Is the Wiki now the new owner's intellectual property or the folks that wrote stuff in the wiki or both? It's a grand thing to back up the Wiki, but if you can't post it elsewhere, what's the point?

I probably use the forum 70% of the time and Wiki 30% of the time. That means I'd be more unhappy if the forum goes away.

Re: What is your opinion on Keychron keyboards?

Posted: 13 Jan 2022, 00:00
by Muirium
The wiki is all Creative Commons licensed, surely? Like Wikipedia is.

Just copy it. If someone’s bothered to come after it, post DT’s demise, they care more than they show right now!

Incidentally: Nexthority’s rather classy header image is one I shot myself back in Round 5’s heyday. No one asked my permission. I chuckled when I saw it! And that’s about it. It looks good there. 8-)

Re: What is your opinion on Keychron keyboards?

Posted: 13 Jan 2022, 01:33
by hellothere
Muirium wrote: 13 Jan 2022, 00:00 Incidentally: Nexthority’s rather classy header image is one I shot myself back in Round 5’s heyday. No one asked my permission. I chuckled when I saw it! And that’s about it. It looks good there. 8-)
Redmaus needs a higher res version. The pixilation is pretty bad at 4K.

I believe the Creative Commons license is for the text on Media Wiki's ... Wiki, because they acknowledge that their community put it together. "Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License; additional terms may apply. See Terms of Use for details." There's no such disclaimer on the Deskthority Wiki. There isn't any text at all. That doesn't necessarily mean that the website owner has no rights nor is giving anyone rights.

I'm not a lawyer, though. Nor am I a lock picker. That means that I'm not the Lock Picking Lawyer, which is disappointing.

Re: What is your opinion on Keychron keyboards?

Posted: 13 Jan 2022, 01:39
by Findecanor
Muirium wrote: 13 Jan 2022, 00:00 The wiki is all Creative Commons licensed, surely? Like Wikipedia is.
Images (and other files) are licensed, individually for each image. That's because some images are not original works.
Some images that are not CC are "licensed to Deskthority" though. Therefore, can not be copied.

The text does not carry any copyright info. However, webwit once stated this back in 2011:
webwit wrote: 21 Jul 2011, 17:38 So let's say you contribute lots to the wiki, and then some crazy Japanese millionaire comes to us and offers 1M EUR for the deskthority wiki. Just to close it and start a porn wiki instead. We wouldn't be able to resist and what would happen? Hmmm. Well he would be buying the title, not the content. Admin would probably share the proceedings. I'd probably need to get rid of some of them to increase my cut. Ownership is sketchy so far because we didn't care yet. Whatever infighting though, in this scenario the data is still free. So the worst that can happen is that the deskthority title is lost, and the content is continued elsewhere with the same tech.
So, that's it. Webwit has stated that keyboardjoy does not own copyright to the content of the Wiki.
I would say that it is in the public domain.

Re: What is your opinion on Keychron keyboards?

Posted: 01 Feb 2022, 12:45
by webwit
The wiki is still open source, wiki and user content remains yours and was not part of the sale.

Re: What is your opinion on Keychron keyboards?

Posted: 03 Feb 2022, 17:11
by snarfbot
Whats the link to the nextthority?

Re: What is your opinion on Keychron keyboards?

Posted: 03 Feb 2022, 19:41
by Muirium
Until just a few days ago, DT was looking abandoned, overgrown with spam. People were rightly fearing the forum was a gonner. That’s what all this talk is about.

The OP spam is gone at last, so reading these threads for the first time now must be confusing. :lol:

Re: What is your opinion on Keychron keyboards?

Posted: 03 Feb 2022, 21:57
by snarfbot
Lol oh that's good to hear thanks

Re: What is your opinion on Keychron keyboards?

Posted: 06 Mar 2022, 04:26
by HKG
snarfbot wrote: 03 Feb 2022, 17:11 Whats the link to the nextthority?
https://nexthority.net/

We are about to launch as well, and we will need contributors for the wiki. I would also recommend joining our Discord server.