Tai-Hao ALPS Cubic Profile ISO DE IC/GB

[guidemetothelight]

Hello Dear German Alps loving Community

Iam sure you are all familiar with the Tai-Hao produced Keycaps for Alps switches. After being bummed out for a long time, that there are no ISO DE Versions , i decided to write Tai-Hao a Message to change that.

They agreed to run a GB for an ISO DE Version of their retro colour scheme (and other colours in the future).
Since this would be my first time as an organizer of a group buy , do you guys have any advice / tips for me ?

Here is a google forms doc for the Interest Check.
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1kPAIHy ... BkqJw/edit

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Happy typing !

Nick

[inozenz]

Here is a google forms doc for the Interest Check.

the google doc is missing

[Nuum]

Very interested! Not a big fan of Taihao's Cubic profile, but it's fine.
I'd change a few things regarding keycap choice, if possible:

1. Add a 1u Numpad 0, for 1800/96% layouts
2. Change the R4 |\ keycap to the German #', for "German HHKB" layouts
3. Change the R2 1u |\ keycap to a 1,5u R3 #', for "ANSI DE" layouts
4. Add a 6u spacebar
5. The extra R1 <> could probably left out

(in order of importance to me)

Also German legends for the extra keycaps on the bottom (e.g. nav keys and1.5u mods) would be nice.

[guidemetothelight]

Here is a google forms doc for the Interest Check.

the google doc is missing

thanks , right now iam not at home.
will add it once i get back.

[guidemetothelight]

Here is a google forms doc for the Interest Check.

the google doc is missing

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1kPAIHy ... BkqJw/edit

[inozenz]

Here is a google forms doc for the Interest Check.

the google doc is missing

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1kPAIHy ... BkqJw/edit

thats a pretty simple IC
Add it to the first post.

[guidemetothelight]

Very interested! Not a big fan of Taihao's Cubic profile, but it's fine.
I'd change a few things regarding keycap choice, if possible:

1. Add a 1u Numpad 0, for 1800/96% layouts
2. Change the R4 |\ keycap to the German #', for "German HHKB" layouts
3. Change the R2 1u |\ keycap to a 1,5u R3 #', for "ANSI DE" layouts
4. Add a 6u spacebar
5. The extra R1 <> could probably left out

(in order of importance to me)

Also German legends for the extra keycaps on the bottom (e.g. nav keys and1.5u mods) would be nice.

Very good points , ill run them by my conatact and see what i can do.

[guidemetothelight]

I have news that there will be a MOQ of 50 Sets.

Do you guys think this is realistic ?

Also please find more Information regarding this Group Buy / Costs down below:
https://i.imgur.com/FVogsH5.jpg

[inozenz]

I have news that there will be a MOQ of 50 Sets.

Do you guys think this is realistic ?

Also please find more Information regarding this Group Buy / Costs down below:
https://i.imgur.com/FVogsH5.jpg

i dont think that hitting 50 sets is too far off for the german community.
but itll get very expencive if everyone has to get his set individually from tai hao.
A better cost effective solution would be a mass shipping to 1 location and distribution in germany.
Another factor is obviously import tax, which is 19% for mwst. in germany.
So a single set would cost around (50+25)x1,19 = 89,25€.
If we can do this differently and send everything to 1 person all of the 50 sets would cost around 200€ to ship to germany.
((50x50+200)x1,19)/50+5 = 69,26€
You are basically saving money if you dont let tai hao handle these things.
Lets say Tai hao is flexible and is willing to do this all with a private person and also willing to reduce the cost on paper, this would also drastically reduce cost per set. but there are to many ifs and whens and so on. you need someone who is willing to take responsibility and do all this stuff.
i can tell you from experience, you wont find anyone.
Its the same as space invasion groupbuy, i took the task on my own shoulders and many ppl said they would come and help, but noone did
So what i want to say is, either you do all this on your own or you let it go.

[guidemetothelight]

i dont think that hitting 50 sets is too far off for the german community.

Ok, good to know. Its hard to gauge demand when you've never done this before.

but itll get very expencive if everyone has to get his set individually from tai hao.
A better cost effective solution would be a mass shipping to 1 location and distribution in germany.
Another factor is obviously import tax, which is 19% for mwst. in germany.
So a single set would cost around (50+25)x1,19 = 89,25€.

Which is quite expensive. I also thought about the price and i will bring some of those concerns to tai hao. i have 1 or 2 ideas to bring down the price.

If we can do this differently and send everything to 1 person all of the 50 sets would cost around 200€ to ship to germany.
((50x50+200)x1,19)/50+5 = 69,26€
You are basically saving money if you dont let tai hao handle these things.
Lets say Tai hao is flexible and is willing to do this all with a private person and also willing to reduce the cost on paper, this would also drastically reduce cost per set.

I have to think about if i wanna do that, with my small student apartment & not the greatest cashflow. I thought about not taking commission payouts from tai-hao & just requesting 1-2 keycap sets for payment, which would bring down cost by a further 10%.

but there are to many ifs and whens and so on. you need someone who is willing to take responsibility and do all this stuff.
i can tell you from experience, you wont find anyone.
Its the same as space invasion groupbuy, i took the task on my own shoulders and many ppl said they would come and help, but noone did
So what i want to say is, either you do all this on your own or you let it go.

Thats the thing , i dont know if I really wanna take that responsibility. I have to think about it.

[guidemetothelight]

GB is now live.

https://discord.gg/b5GRwrsP

[inozenz]

GB is now live.

https://discord.gg/b5GRwrsP

Awesome! Would be nice if you could add basic info on the first post. Like pricing and the way you want to operate and stuff like that.

[guidemetothelight]

GB is now live.

https://discord.gg/b5GRwrsP

Awesome! Would be nice if you could add basic info on the first post. Like pricing and the way you want to operate and stuff like that.

will do !

[guidemetothelight]

Very interested! Not a big fan of Taihao's Cubic profile, but it's fine.

Hey Man ,
just wanted to say that the GB is live.
https://discord.com/invite/CS6wkcXx

here is the Discord Link.

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