Keyboard builders for hire?
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- Main keyboard: Cherry G80-3000
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Hello skilled DTers!
I've been lurking on these boards for a few months. Apologies if this question has come up before (I've had a good search!).
I've managed to convince myself that there's an ideal keyboard layout for me, and it's non standard.
I've also realised that I don't have the cop-on to build a keyboard for myself.
I imagine that all of you are focussed on your latest designs, but are any of you deft enough at knocking out boards that you'd do one for a stranger (for a bit of a fee)?
A Poker II ANSI type layout on Cherry Blues is almost perfect for me. But, with a small ISO L Shift, so that I can move the ZXCVB keys along one to the left, and leave the old B space empty. Oh, and with Return and Caps Lock as Fn keys. And the }], " ', ?/, column removed, making the whole keyboard 1.0 keys narrower. And Return on |\. And a horribly complicated Fn layer. Did I mention backspace on a split space bar? I suppose I could put a tracking ball/nipple in the old B space...
Well, that's the drivel my brain's spurting (I'm sure that I could be talked out of a lot of it!).
Aside that I could do a lot with software and hacking at existing boards, are there any freelance boardsmiths out there who might be interested in a project like this?
Quite anti-hacker-ish in sentiment, I know! I'm just looking at the rapidly accumulating piles of various 'bits' I'm hoarding, and realising that I'm not really going to do anything with them! Exploit me!
I've been lurking on these boards for a few months. Apologies if this question has come up before (I've had a good search!).
I've managed to convince myself that there's an ideal keyboard layout for me, and it's non standard.
I've also realised that I don't have the cop-on to build a keyboard for myself.
I imagine that all of you are focussed on your latest designs, but are any of you deft enough at knocking out boards that you'd do one for a stranger (for a bit of a fee)?
A Poker II ANSI type layout on Cherry Blues is almost perfect for me. But, with a small ISO L Shift, so that I can move the ZXCVB keys along one to the left, and leave the old B space empty. Oh, and with Return and Caps Lock as Fn keys. And the }], " ', ?/, column removed, making the whole keyboard 1.0 keys narrower. And Return on |\. And a horribly complicated Fn layer. Did I mention backspace on a split space bar? I suppose I could put a tracking ball/nipple in the old B space...
Well, that's the drivel my brain's spurting (I'm sure that I could be talked out of a lot of it!).
Aside that I could do a lot with software and hacking at existing boards, are there any freelance boardsmiths out there who might be interested in a project like this?
Quite anti-hacker-ish in sentiment, I know! I'm just looking at the rapidly accumulating piles of various 'bits' I'm hoarding, and realising that I'm not really going to do anything with them! Exploit me!
- scottc
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- Location: Remote locations in Europe
- Main keyboard: GH60-HASRO 62g Nixies, HHKB Pro1 HS, Novatouch
- Main mouse: Steelseries Rival 300
- Favorite switch: Nixdorf 'Soft Touch' MX Black
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Hey confounded. I think that the first thing you need to do is to head on over to http://keyboard-layout-editor.com to hack up a picture of your layout because images are a lot easier to follow than textual descriptions. Sounds like an interesting project though! 

- matt3o
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- Location: Italy
- Main keyboard: WhiteFox
- Main mouse: Anywhere MX
- Favorite switch: Anything, really
- DT Pro Member: 0030
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unfortunately custom built, 1 of a kind keyboards are pretty expensive...
- Muirium
- µ
- Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
- Main keyboard: HHKB Type-S with Bluetooth by Hasu
- Main mouse: Apple Magic Mouse
- Favorite switch: Gotta Try 'Em All
- DT Pro Member: µ
Wasn't it more like €250 for the ones we built last year? I'd call it doable, if not exactly trivial. Depends ultimately on what you want to do (Scott's right: diagram please!) and what bits you've got / can source. Custom sized caps don't exactly grow on trees. Although we do have one orchard that I'm sure you've heard me write about before, right here:
http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/ ... t6732.html
Obligatory showing off what I made, with plenty of help from Matt and the group last year:

http://deskthority.net/post133887.html#p133887
http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/ ... t6732.html
Obligatory showing off what I made, with plenty of help from Matt and the group last year:
http://deskthority.net/post133887.html#p133887
- matt3o
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- Location: Italy
- Main keyboard: WhiteFox
- Main mouse: Anywhere MX
- Favorite switch: Anything, really
- DT Pro Member: 0030
- Contact:
It's close to 200-220 if hand wired, 220-240 on DIY PCB, 280-300 printed PCB. EXCLUDING labor time (and shipping). Time to design the plate on CAD software, time to design the PCB, soldering time, firmware programming...
I don't really know how much a custom keyboard would actually cost if I had to do that for hire.
PS: you really like your keyboard huh, Muirium?
I'm really glad you made good use of the laser cut GB 
I don't really know how much a custom keyboard would actually cost if I had to do that for hire.
PS: you really like your keyboard huh, Muirium?


Last edited by matt3o on 31 Jan 2014, 09:39, edited 2 times in total.
- Icarium
- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: These fields just
- Main mouse: opened my eyes
- Favorite switch: I need to bring stuff to work
- DT Pro Member: -
If you can find something that almost matches you might get by with a bit of drilling and rewiring. Might be reasonably cheap if you want an almost standard layout. As others have suggested, post a picture of your desired layout. 

- Muirium
- µ
- Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
- Main keyboard: HHKB Type-S with Bluetooth by Hasu
- Main mouse: Apple Magic Mouse
- Favorite switch: Gotta Try 'Em All
- DT Pro Member: µ
I get to show off my keyboard while being (potentially) helpful, instant win!matt3o wrote:you really like your keyboard huh, Muirium?I'm really glad you made good use of the laser cut GB
Designing your own layout, programming your own layers, and building it = the perfect recipe for a strong attachment to your new keyboard. It's like building your lightsabre. You grow a beard and start wearing robes…
Incidentally, I'm working on a few ideas for my next build. Four rows, multi stepped case, tiny space bar(s).
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- Location: USA
- Main keyboard: Custom
- Main mouse: IBM TrackPoint IV
- Favorite switch: Cherry MX Clicky
- DT Pro Member: -
Lol.. That makes perfect sense, Muirium. I grew a beard last Sept. and now I know why.
Just need to start rocking a robe from Tatooine. FWIW, although the price of the parts are known it's the time investment and labor cost matt3o mentioned that makes up a huge portion of the cost of a custom build. There's also a fair amount of risk involved if things don't come together as expected.

- matt3o
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- Location: Italy
- Main keyboard: WhiteFox
- Main mouse: Anywhere MX
- Favorite switch: Anything, really
- DT Pro Member: 0030
- Contact:
very true. if you make a small mistake in the plate you have to start over again (and +100 euros)mtl wrote:There's also a fair amount of risk involved if things don't come together as expected.
- ماء
- Location: Solo, ID
- Main keyboard: Soon
- Main mouse: Roccat Lua
- Favorite switch: Blacks to heavy>Lighter
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matt30 right,make PCB is diffilcut and exhaust but if just own project not comersial i think cheaper like key64 PCB regular with teensy,but fortunately in my country there
Services PCB maker so cheap,in italy nothing
best way homemade PCB i think
actually,i don't like of handwired is layer cases
i prefer with wood maybe 





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- Location: United Kingdom
- Main keyboard: Ducky YYY 62g gold springs krytox MX Black sticker
- Main mouse: roccat kone xtd
- Favorite switch: Topre 45g / MX Black 62g lubed
- DT Pro Member: -
I also really like that keyboard! Is handwiring a KB really that hard?matt3o wrote:PS: you really like your keyboard huh, Muirium?I'm really glad you made good use of the laser cut GB
- Muirium
- µ
- Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
- Main keyboard: HHKB Type-S with Bluetooth by Hasu
- Main mouse: Apple Magic Mouse
- Favorite switch: Gotta Try 'Em All
- DT Pro Member: µ
You need the right tools, fine solder and a lot of patience. It's fiddly and time consuming, but not really all that hard, once you get some practice. And doing a keyboard ensures you will!
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- Location: United Kingdom
- Main keyboard: Ducky YYY 62g gold springs krytox MX Black sticker
- Main mouse: roccat kone xtd
- Favorite switch: Topre 45g / MX Black 62g lubed
- DT Pro Member: -
I have a decent soldering station and solder/equipment etc. My background is in physics research so tweezers and tools galore
. Looking at the pics of those two handwired boards posted, my main question is the housing/case. How do you go about that?
I'll have spare switches and caps and ISO poker 2 plate after my ducky tkl and poker 2 60% are fully modded. I'll want to make a 60% with the spares.
Looks like i'll need a controller, some diodes, case....what else?

I'll have spare switches and caps and ISO poker 2 plate after my ducky tkl and poker 2 60% are fully modded. I'll want to make a 60% with the spares.
Looks like i'll need a controller, some diodes, case....what else?
- matt3o
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- Location: Italy
- Main keyboard: WhiteFox
- Main mouse: Anywhere MX
- Favorite switch: Anything, really
- DT Pro Member: 0030
- Contact:
I suggest you reading this http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/brow ... t6050.html
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- Location: United Kingdom
- Main keyboard: Ducky YYY 62g gold springs krytox MX Black sticker
- Main mouse: roccat kone xtd
- Favorite switch: Topre 45g / MX Black 62g lubed
- DT Pro Member: -
Will do after work, thank you!matt3o wrote:I suggest you reading this http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/brow ... t6050.html

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- Location: uk (yorkshire)
- Main keyboard: many
- Main mouse: rat 5 modded
- Favorite switch: cherry mx black
- DT Pro Member: -
have a look at my attempt ! to build one also
not as good as the brownfox
plus if you get stuck =just ask
http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/a-ba ... t7222.html
not as good as the brownfox
plus if you get stuck =just ask
http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/a-ba ... t7222.html