Cooler Master Sentinel III

Hak Foo

06 Jan 2016, 05:30

I actually received this just before Christmas (it was the random-draw prize from one of the polls-- thanks again to the CM people for sponsoring it), but I haven't had a chance to really take it out for a spin until today (for reasons that will become clear shortly).

Background
Over the years, I tended to gravitate towards mid-priced wired mice. I knew the really cheap ones would die quickly, and much more than USD40 seemed an awful lot of money to spend on mice. Not like it was a keyboard or anything :mrgreen: Never cared for wireless ones, because I expected them to let me down at crucial moments (and when I finally got one of those Microsoft Touch Mice, damned if it didn't do so, burning through the pack-in batteries in less than a fortnight!)

If I had a 'favourite', it was probably the Logitech M500-- a sensible shape and reasonably competent construction. Even when I finally admitted to coveting a friend's G7 enough to buy the wired analogue (the G5), I ended up going back to the M500.

Eventually I got into trackballs (which ends with a conclusion that it's okay to spend a small fortune on a CST), and the M500 eventually made its way to the office, where I used it until the feet came off due to three kilos of schmutz impacted into them. So, of late, my mouse exposure has primarily been a pack-in HP optical mouse at my office desktop. My expectations are, therefore, quite low.

First Impression
I was immediately fairly comfortable with the shape of the Sentinel III, being fairly reminiscent of the M500. It's contoured enough to fit the hand, without some of the more extreme bends that could be uncomfortable over long periods or unaccomodating to extra large or small hands. The surace is just hard plastics, possibly painted, and there are several seams. I expect over the years to see a bit of dirt collection there, but it won't have the issue of the surface wearing or peeling off the way some premium mice do.

While the main switches are satisfyingly clicky, the side buttons have an softer hollow snap- not quite dropping down to "tactile only" but nowhere near as loud as the main buttons.

The build quality seems solid enough, but at the cost of it looking like the whole thing is permanently snapped/fused together. It does not look like you could trivially disassemble it without damage. It has one of those nice loomed-look cables-- all the trend, but do they collect more dirt than a similar smooth cable exterior?

Software
In an ideal world, input devices will not require drivers. When you get too dependent on drivers, it's one more thing when setting up a new machine, or one more thing to say 'but it won't work in my OS/2 3.0 install!'

I think CM made a reasonable compromise on software here. They wanted to pack a lot of functionality in here: all the buttons being configurable, colour and DPI adjustment-- and it's well beyond the scope of configuration by pecking on the little screen. However, the beautiful thing is that the software doesn't require a permanent presence. It doesn't launch at boot, and the configuration is stored on the device. I could see, for example, programming it once on a Windows box even if you normally use Linux.

I have a particularly awkward case-- being split in affections between this and a Kensington Expert Mouse being used left-handed -- it may make sense to configure the OS for the trackball, then stuff the mouse's configuration with reversed buttons so it can be used right-handed in spite of the OS.

I will call out two minor concerns with the software as-is: The colour scheme-- muted dark grey on darker grey-- gives the impression of disabled controls. (Sorry, I spend all day yelling at people over 'this is a terrible way to design a form') On a more substantive note, although the mouse has two distinct LED zones, there does not appear to be a way to configure their colour/behaviour independently. It's entirely possible I'm misinterpreting the description on the website, and it's only one colour choice, just coming out of two openings, but given how people went crazy over things like the Corsair RGB keyboards not living up to expectations, might want to run that language past legal. :)

Performance
Now here's where it becomes entertaining. When I took the mouse home, my first attempt to use it was the "naive" approach-- plug it into a socket and drop it on my ordinary Ikea laminate-covered desk. The cursor doesn't budge. Occasionally you get a twitch at the highest DPI setting. But clearly not registering motion in a meaningful way.

So I run my finger over the sensor... some signs of life.

Proceed to an hour of thwapping the mouse, assuming "the sensor lens must have fallen out of alignment during transit", and trying to find a way to crack it open without destroying it. Finally, I try some other surfaces:

Old "Dilbert" comic anthology: Nothing
Final Fantasy XII game case: almost usable tracking at medium and high speeds.
Small copper ingot - perfect tracking. Wait a minute-- isn't shiny metal supposed to be really difficult for optical mice? I'll try some other metal pieces-- an old PC side panel, and a project box case... again, tracks fine... what's going on here?
Borrowed old mouse pad: perfect tracking.

So we can conclude the sensor really just hates a lot of surfaces, most significantly bare desks. This also means I have to get my hands on a mouse-pad. After a week in the post from Hong Kong or somewhere, I finally got one and was able to proceed to review the mouse as a mouse instead of an art object. (Bonus points for people who can figure out the design on the pad-- a nod to one of the few hobbies more expensive than input devices)

The fully-adjustable DPI is a huge win compared to 'a few fixed setting' models-- which will inevitably be too low or too high for your taste. I'm finding 2400 a nice usable choice with a 2560x1440+1600x1200 desktop, easy to whip across the whole screen at once-- while still being reasonably precise.

In looking at this, I will admit, I'm not their target demographic. I have no doubt this is intended to compete with gamer-gear products coming out of Razer and Corsair.

I game, but I typically prefer a 360 or Steam Controller over a keyboard+mouse, but I do spend probably 12 hours a day in front of a PC of one form or another, so I do appreciate a mouse that's comfortable and doesn't get in my way. The fact it throbs a sinister red light at me while I use it is a bonus.

I can see the "program it and the program stays on the mouse" feature being a powerful differentiator to the performance-oriented gamer crowd. "Why are you wasting precious CPU cycles and memory on something like Razer Synapse just to have your macros and LED colours how you want them" or even "the configuration follows you even if you take it to work/use it on your laptop/etc."
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Bramster
Cooler Master Employee

12 Jan 2016, 13:56

Hey There!

First off congratulations and also thanks for taking the time to write up the review!

Secondly to ask regarding your issues with the sensor, what firmware are you currently on? We should have already released new ones on our website: gaming.coolermaster.com

Hope besides you enjoy the mouse and/or what is your conclusion :)?

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Bramster
Cooler Master Employee

13 Jan 2016, 10:30


So we can conclude the sensor really just hates a lot of surfaces, most significantly bare desks. This also means I have to get my hands on a mouse-pad. After a week in the post from Hong Kong or somewhere, I finally got one and was able to proceed to review the mouse as a mouse instead of an art object. (Bonus points for people who can figure out the design on the pad-- a nod to one of the few hobbies more expensive than input devices)
Regarding this, can you please re-callibrate the sensor with the specific mouse surface you are using?

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Elrick

16 Jan 2016, 00:56

CM Bram wrote: Hope besides you enjoy the mouse and/or what is your conclusion :)?
Nice you've released an updated model here but there is no mention of it within any retail channel.

Just out of interest where can this model be bought from?

Would like a direct link to purchase this as soon as possible.

Hak Foo

16 Jan 2016, 07:55

CM Bram wrote: Hey There!

First off congratulations and also thanks for taking the time to write up the review!

Secondly to ask regarding your issues with the sensor, what firmware are you currently on? We should have already released new ones on our website: gaming.coolermaster.com

Hope besides you enjoy the mouse and/or what is your conclusion :)?
Sorry... I didn't see your reply until now.

Overall opinion: I do like it. After using a left-handed trackball for quite a while, it's nice to have a right-handed mouse for games that are clearly designed for "WASD+right handed mouse". The gimmicks and configurability are solidly executed, and I like that it's more subtle and comfortable than, say, a R. A. T. series.

The surface-compatibility issue does not really detract, if you're coming in from a situation of already having a mouse pad; I just got rid of mine when I switched to trackballs, so I am so not your typical audience. (Stupid question: considering that they sell desk-size mousepads, why don't desks come covered in mousepad material)

As for the tech support question-- It's on firmware 1.15 (the software calls it 1.15, but the download page calls it 1.015) from the CM site, listed as 17th December 2015.

When I try to recalibrate it, whether on the mouse pad or a bare desk, it always ends with "calibration fail" and the behaviour is still the same. After a few tries, it seemed to get weirded out to the point it no longer tracked even on the pad, but an unplug-plug fixed that. I notice the files it saves for calibration are empty. I wouldn't be surprised if this is just the configuration software acting wonky (a version number of 0.021 exudes confidence :) )

The software is still a little rough-- but that's always fixable down the road. Specifically, I spent way longer than I should have trying to discover exactly what colour-depth BMP file you needed to replace the logo, since it was just failing to do anything, rather than giving me an error message. Still, it's in the big respects on par or better than the sort of tools you get from other vendors. Specifically, I'm thinking of Kensington's Trackballworks for comparison, which not only has to stay loaded all the time, but until recently, would turn my Win10 installs into a self-clicking unusable mess.

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Bramster
Cooler Master Employee

22 Jan 2016, 10:15

Elrick wrote:
CM Bram wrote: Hope besides you enjoy the mouse and/or what is your conclusion :)?
Nice you've released an updated model here but there is no mention of it within any retail channel.

Just out of interest where can this model be bought from?

Would like a direct link to purchase this as soon as possible.
Do you mean in your local country? If so where are you from? Or else if with CM directly you can check out cmstore-usa.com and/or cmstore.eu

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Bramster
Cooler Master Employee

22 Jan 2016, 10:18

Hak Foo wrote:
CM Bram wrote: Hey There!

First off congratulations and also thanks for taking the time to write up the review!

Secondly to ask regarding your issues with the sensor, what firmware are you currently on? We should have already released new ones on our website: gaming.coolermaster.com

Hope besides you enjoy the mouse and/or what is your conclusion :)?
Sorry... I didn't see your reply until now.

Overall opinion: I do like it. After using a left-handed trackball for quite a while, it's nice to have a right-handed mouse for games that are clearly designed for "WASD+right handed mouse". The gimmicks and configurability are solidly executed, and I like that it's more subtle and comfortable than, say, a R. A. T. series.

The surface-compatibility issue does not really detract, if you're coming in from a situation of already having a mouse pad; I just got rid of mine when I switched to trackballs, so I am so not your typical audience. (Stupid question: considering that they sell desk-size mousepads, why don't desks come covered in mousepad material)

As for the tech support question-- It's on firmware 1.15 (the software calls it 1.15, but the download page calls it 1.015) from the CM site, listed as 17th December 2015.

When I try to recalibrate it, whether on the mouse pad or a bare desk, it always ends with "calibration fail" and the behaviour is still the same. After a few tries, it seemed to get weirded out to the point it no longer tracked even on the pad, but an unplug-plug fixed that. I notice the files it saves for calibration are empty. I wouldn't be surprised if this is just the configuration software acting wonky (a version number of 0.021 exudes confidence :) )

The software is still a little rough-- but that's always fixable down the road. Specifically, I spent way longer than I should have trying to discover exactly what colour-depth BMP file you needed to replace the logo, since it was just failing to do anything, rather than giving me an error message. Still, it's in the big respects on par or better than the sort of tools you get from other vendors. Specifically, I'm thinking of Kensington's Trackballworks for comparison, which not only has to stay loaded all the time, but until recently, would turn my Win10 installs into a self-clicking unusable mess.
Thanks for the extra additions!

As for the OLED logo you can put on we are in the near future also going to release a "library" to choose from so you wont have to create something yourself. If you still want, ofcourse you still can!

Regarding sensor and the unplug-plug issue we are looking into it and are always looking into improving the performance and experience with our products. Dont be surprised to see another FW version online in the future.

Pleased to read that the overall impression you like it :)!

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Elrick

28 Jan 2016, 01:33

CM Bram wrote: Do you mean in your local country? If so where are you from? Or else if with CM directly you can check out cmstore-usa.com and/or cmstore.eu

Situated in Australia and your website seems to only deal with US or European destinations.

Maybe another online retailer may sell your current model of mouse but I have been unsuccessful in finding anyone.

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Elrick

24 Feb 2016, 04:31

Believe it or not I have just received my Sentinel 3 mouse :-D .

Amazing feel of the casing design because it isn't covered in some cheapo sprayed rubber paint but has this rather satin like finish which isn't sticky in your hands, when you sweat like a PIG.

Updated the firmware from it's native V1.12 to V1.18 and it seems to be PERFECT. Someone else with a wealth of Mice Testing experience should get this model and run their own detailed tests because being a rock ape, doesn't preclude that I can understand or initiate what's required here.

All I can say this little mouse fits snugly within the first part of my Right hand leaving the other half of my hand trailing on the mouse pad. Which is alright since most mice I buy tend to be tiny, to actually use comfortably. This Sentinel 3 is extremely usable, even by me.

This would be the FIRST decent mouse made by CoolerMaster that doesn't suck balls for once, kudos CM for keeping it real.

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Bramster
Cooler Master Employee

26 Feb 2016, 12:03

Elrick wrote:
CM Bram wrote: Do you mean in your local country? If so where are you from? Or else if with CM directly you can check out cmstore-usa.com and/or cmstore.eu

Situated in Australia and your website seems to only deal with US or European destinations.

Maybe another online retailer may sell your current model of mouse but I have been unsuccessful in finding anyone.
Actually the EU cmstore ships globally but shipping costs might not be cheap! And a APAC store has been opened as well recently: http://store.coolermaster.com/

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Bramster
Cooler Master Employee

26 Feb 2016, 12:04

Elrick wrote: Believe it or not I have just received my Sentinel 3 mouse :-D .

Amazing feel of the casing design because it isn't covered in some cheapo sprayed rubber paint but has this rather satin like finish which isn't sticky in your hands, when you sweat like a PIG.

Updated the firmware from it's native V1.12 to V1.18 and it seems to be PERFECT. Someone else with a wealth of Mice Testing experience should get this model and run their own detailed tests because being a rock ape, doesn't preclude that I can understand or initiate what's required here.

All I can say this little mouse fits snugly within the first part of my Right hand leaving the other half of my hand trailing on the mouse pad. Which is alright since most mice I buy tend to be tiny, to actually use comfortably. This Sentinel 3 is extremely usable, even by me.

This would be the FIRST decent mouse made by CoolerMaster that doesn't suck balls for once, kudos CM for keeping it real.
Well only thing I can say is that I am happy to hear you like our Sentinel III :mrgreen:!

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Elrick

15 Mar 2016, 02:47

CM Bram wrote:
Elrick wrote: Well only thing I can say is that I am happy to hear you like our Sentinel III :mrgreen:!
The amazing thing is this current CM Sentinel 3 is being used consistently for more than 3 weeks now. That is a world record with me because I normally toss away mice like used chip packs because they either bore me to death or leave my hand wanting to drop off at the wrist.

Your product still remains on my desk connected to my best PC only because I love it to death. Perfect switches and the scroll wheel is okay, not like Roccat's standard but it's still decent when comparing to most out there.

This is my all time fave input device for my Right Hand, thank you for that :-D .

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