The wiki thread

[webwit]

You really have a small screen But there's room now to scrape some pixels off.

[webwit]

By the way, I recently installed two new toys:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CategoryTree
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Replace_Text

[ripster]

I mean, what incentive is there to slave away on these things otherwise. I can't even FIND the author of these unless I do some digging around in the tabs.

What incentive is there to slave away with a pseudonym?
What incentive is there anyway for a hobby, since you don't get paid?
Do you seek fame among the bouncing visitors from google? They don't register your pseudonym, just like you don't register the authors of most stuff you search for on the Internet.
An incentive would be to seek fame and recognition in the keyboard communities, as a good wiki author. For example, daedalus wrote some pretty good IBM articles.

Wait. Skip all that. Wikipedia is all about your edits/moderations count, bitch. Best bitches have the highest count and most respect. I think they get ranks based on old Third Reich titles, such as Reichsmoderationsleiter, but this might be slightly inaccurate (citation needed).

I thought the goal was to be the guy that has the final say in erasing everybody's edits and say " needs citations"!

And to label Ping Whining as tantamount to bestiality!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Taboo

[7bit]

You really have a small screen But there's room now to scrape some pixels off.

... and I don't browse in full-screen mode.

[webwit]

We can make the boxes smaller and get 3 next to each other which would look much better.

In that case you have been changing the front page for your own random window size!

[7bit]

A window-size of 640x480 is the standard!

I've set up a test-page to experiment a bit without messing with the main page:
http://deskthority.net/wiki/Main_Page_Test

I've also added links into the headers and swapped the boxes a bit around so they are more logical if displayed on a 3x3 grid.

The next step would be to furcter reduce the withds and apply the following color-sequence:
R G B
G B R
B R G

[webwit]

Fail Nothing of that works because you are thinking a fixed number of boxes per row while it was designed to use available window width.

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[7bit]

Sorry, not my fault!

Why are 3 linebreaks are treated differently from 2?

I just added more line breaks to have a better orientaion in the source code.

Bring harder to fix arguments against it next time!

[mintberryminuscrunch]

and you could link the box title to "more..."
hm.. wasn't looking at the test page sry

[7bit]

and you could link the box title to "more..."

The box titles are linked to what is more... in most cases.
The more... can go!

[webwit]

I like that. Not enough to remove "more..." I guess, because the box title may not be obvious as a clickable area.

[webwit]

Looks great now! Only would change "by type" etc. back to "keyboards by type" for clarity. Maybe it works if you only do the first one.

[7bit]

Looks great now! Only would change "by type" etc. back to "keyboards by type" for clarity. Maybe it works if you only do the first one.

I would like go into the other direction:
BRANDS & COMPANIES -> BRANDS & CO. and make the withs even smaller!



edit: OK added KEYBOARDS again. Still some pixels of empty space ...

[webwit]

The empty box we can use in the future for Accessories. Wrist rests, key pullers, etc. Maybe make some stubs.

[off]

Do you seek fame among the bouncing visitors from google? They don't register your pseudonym, just like you don't register the authors of most stuff you search for on the Internet.

Honestly, when I came bouncing in a few years ago, I did register the name. And subsequently, the changes of character he/she went through. For better and worse

[ripster]

So far I like 7bit's CAPSLOCK Wiki the best. Maybe he should get a beer coaster signed by Webwit or something?

However I think the wikis need more arguing and drama. Some noob edit in springs are the same in Cherry MX wiki. Red = blue = brown. Then name call (be sure to include ethnic slurs). Revert History in WIKI EDITOR RAGE. Blow up the wiki into a endless loop ghost stubs. Get temp banned. Result in a complete moderator team and rule rewrite. Typical April 1 for me.

Americans. We INVENTED the soap opera.

Anyway are we supposed to post our "disagreements" in this thread or in the wiki? Fuhua, not Fukka. And this scares the shit out of me.

http://deskthority.net/wiki/File:How2dry_IBM_001.jpg

[mintberryminuscrunch]

there you go again it's the CAPSLOCK wiki not 7bit's CAPSLOCK wiki

[7bit]

The empty box we can use in the future for Accessories. Wrist rests, key pullers, etc. Maybe make some stubs.

Noooooo!
I wanted to reserve it for Group Buys!!!!

So far I like 7bit's CAPSLOCK Wiki the best. Maybe he should get a beer coaster signed by Webwit or something?
....

I like the first paragraph of your post best. This is why I quoted it.

Anyway are we supposed to post our "disagreements" in this thread or in the wiki? Fuhua, not Fukka. And this scares the shit out of me.

Post them here or in the Discussion page of each article.

What is wrong with backed key stems?

there you go again it's the CAPSLOCK wiki not 7bit's CAPSLOCK wiki

Stay away from my Caps Lock wiki!!!


It's mine, don't touch it!!!

[ripster]

I Like arguing about stuff here better myself. More chance for multiple viewpoints.

So...what about ABS keys! I think you could KILL somebody with that oven method! Geeks can't cook - everybody knows that!

[off]

What is wrong with backed key stems?

HOLD YOUR HANDS BEHIND YOUR HEAD, AND
STEP AWAY FROM THE CAPS.

I REPEAT,
STEP AWAY FROM THE CAPS
OR WE *WILL* SHOOT

[ripster]

I should add my Signature Plastics CAPSLOCK.

Ugliest font bar none. Drunken Arial is what I call it.

TIL Access Keyboards used Signature Plastics for their keys. I recognize that Fugly K anywhere. Looks like it's about to fall over from Partying!

[HaaTa]

Question.

I'm about to write a wiki page on Honeywell Hall Effect switches (I have a partial data sheet on some of the specs). Though in my preparation, I have discovered at least 9 identifiable variants of the switch among the keyboards I own. 3 different weightings, connection type, odd stems, etc. Each has their own Model number (e.g. 1A3S -> Switch type 1, Vertical slider (type A), Weighting type 3, and connected pins (type S).

Now, should I write a wiki page for each of the switch models? (might be an idea to attempt to get a catalog from Honeywell (they do have such things if you ask nicely)
Or write one large wiki article and explain the numbering scheme?


Oh, and btw. Webwit, on your two (I've only see two) Hall Effect keyboards (the Symbolics and Space Cadet), do you have a list of the model numbers for your switches? It's hard to see them in the pics. The models are almost definitely different as you have 3 pins per switch in the space cadet keyboard (while I have 4 in all of mine). Generally, there is one common switch, then odder variations under the larger keycaps as 2 lighter switches are used in order to stabilize the keycap.
The model numbers are engraved or printed on the tops of the key switches.

My current list of switch models:

• 4A3A (Bud Keypad)
• 1A3S (TI Telex)
• 1A8S (TI Telex)
• 4B1S (Convergent)
• 4B1D (Convergent)
• 4T3S (Convergent)
• 6B1D (Convergent)
• 6A1D (Convergent)
• 12B3S (Convergent)

[bhtooefr]

Personally, given that it's such a niche switch, I'd make one page, and break it into categories if each switch turns out to be unique enough to need it?

[webwit]

I agree with bhtooefr.

Symbolics 3600 Rev D: Big key (top) has same switch as smaller ones (bottom): 4B3E
Space Cadet: Big key (top) has stabilizer 6B1D and switch 4B1E, normal keys 4B3E

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EDIT: fixed typos in product numbers.

[7bit]

I wonder if there exist wiki articles about these keyboards yet....


ps: Is the dust some holy dust which should not be cleand off from they key caps?

[HaaTa]

Thanks webwit! I'll add those models to the wiki.
(Just making sure, you checked the space bars too, they seem to have different switches as well).

Just added my initial article -> http://deskthority.net/wiki/Honeywell_Hall_Effect
I don't have any measurement tools at my disposal, so I can't measure the weightings of the switches accurately.

[webwit]

I started adding some text&structure conventions to the Help file (for now, maybe not the right place), mostly taken from this topic and from wikipedia conventions. Feel free to discuss or add to this as you encounter stuff which can be written or done in multiple ways.

http://deskthority.net/wiki/Help:Contents

[ripster]

Hmm. You prefer lots of little wikis (like one entry per manufacturer for a key legend font) or a mega wiki like my key reference wiki with a hundred pics?

And my vote for Wiki of the Day!

http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cloud_of_boobs

[webwit]

Depends, as the author you should do what you feel is best. Maybe if it gets very large, you can point from the main article to sub articles, that's the usual strategy. I think most people start with one article, if it grows beyond Round 4 size you can always split it later. Personally I like the gallery style pictures for articles which use lots of pictures (as opposed to full size pictures in the article). Like the caps lock page.

[ripster]

Yeah, I really like that Capslock page format so I think I'll do something like that.

Thanks!

And Squint if you see a watermark since it's not Wikipedia here!