The left shift should be 1.25matt3o wrote:This might be Monkey's board BUT I never worked with 7u and ISO return. It's a bit of a hazard...
ISO return and space bar looks correct to me, but I will check when I get home. 
You don't like it?Jmneuv wrote:What have you done!?Broadmonkey wrote:Sorry, I have been in two minds of what I should get, but I have settled on this:
I just got out late yesterday and I'm feeling good now.
Looks great! I think he'll need to be careful about routing the matrix around the screw holes, especially the two at the top of the case, and maybe the space bar.matt3o wrote:This is how the sides look.
Lol! Thanks for the tip. I'll add another side layer, but also do some measurements to make sure that'll be enough.matt3o wrote:You definitely need a longer stick (don't really know how not to pun). I don't think you can fit that in the current case design. Cables almost touch the bottom of the case, it won't be easy to fit a daughter board like that under the switches. Probably you need 1 more 3mm side layer and a looong stick.
Oh my! This is terrible! Fortunately you "look" fine now.oneproduct wrote:My right lung collapsed and they had me attached to some tubes to reinflate it and keep it that way. It was quite hard to breathe and there were times that I thought I was literally going to pass out in the middle of nowhere before I got to the hospital!
I'm not sure that would be possible with your design, I have to make some tests with the sides.oneproduct wrote:After seeing your HHFoxy with the hidden screws, I'm also somewhat interested in something like that. Not so much to hide the screws but to reduce the size of the bezel as I'd like this 40% keyboard to be as small as possible as that's the primary goal.
yeah, routing the matrix won't be easy but should be feasible.mtl wrote:Looks great! I think he'll need to be careful about routing the matrix around the screw holes, especially the two at the top of the case, and maybe the space bar.
yes, you need accurate measurements. Consider that with a 9mm case you can't fit anything under the switches.mtl wrote:Lol! Thanks for the tip. I'll add another side layer, but also do some measurements to make sure that'll be enough.
they have to design the final composition to make the quote, since we have so many different designs and materials they just got scared and said that there's no way to have it by the end of JulyMuirium wrote:Did they give you any price estimates?
(anyway I may try to call them and ask for a ballpark estimate) gonna ask. hold on.photekq wrote:Is there any way I can just have mine cut (obviously without price reductions) before the end of July? If not then I'll need to find another place to have them cut.
Thank you very muchmatt3o wrote:gonna ask. hold on.photekq wrote:Is there any way I can just have mine cut (obviously without price reductions) before the end of July? If not then I'll need to find another place to have them cut.
I guess that gives time for more people to jump on board though, and maybe bring prices down. 
The USB connector is this one. It will need a Teensy 2.0++ due to the extra lines required by the TrackPoint and OLED display. The IBM logo would be a nice touch but I could live without it if it's impossible to cut. Most of the key switches will be mounted sideways, because I will have to hack away at some of them to get things to fit, and sideways worked out better. 
Great idea!matt3o wrote:As per the IBM logo, it's a bit risky imho (especially on aluminum). You could use a not-striped version instead. Maybe a little smaller.
Yeah, already I've gone to 9 mm of internal space, and it is a bit cramped at that. The key switches can be made slimmer (down to about 4 mm protrusion) by cutting off the round nub at the bottom and bending the pins, which will help a lot in areas where I plan to sqeeze internal components, but it will probably get very difficult to work in such tight spaces.Muirium wrote:Fair enough. The downside to using IBM's original TP controller is its physical size, especially in the Z dimension. Matt's design relies on using most of the internal space in that axis to house the switches and their pins. You'll have to go deeper, into thicker keyboard territory.
That's an excellent idea! Thank you! I'll play around with some layouts to see how it works.Muirium wrote:Here's an idea: how about making a stepped rectangle shape? If you can slim the IBM controller's footprint down a bit, you could move it to the back where it can enjoy its own deeper section of the case, which will also elevate the overall angle a bit. We've been making strictly cuboid cases until now, but a stepped shape (the union of two cuboids) should be doable. That way you can have a slim case where it matters: at the front, but also keep your needed extra room.
The one problem with that is the letter B. It just doesn't look right without the two holes. But you could take the same approach as KMAC:mtl wrote:Great idea!matt3o wrote:As per the IBM logo, it's a bit risky imho (especially on aluminum). You could use a not-striped version instead. Maybe a little smaller.
Well, it's untested of course. I'd ask Matteo about supports for the plate. I'd go for a full keyboard width "box" along the back, with risers, like HHFox's, set at the obvious tension points. Another play-it-safe option could be to make this extra space a truly separate physical compartment, with a few holes for cabling up to the top. But it would be nice to make this more of a trough than a separate cellar under the house!mtl wrote:That's an excellent idea! Thank you! I'll play around with some layouts to see how it works.Muirium wrote:Here's an idea: how about making a stepped rectangle shape? If you can slim the IBM controller's footprint down a bit, you could move it to the back where it can enjoy its own deeper section of the case, which will also elevate the overall angle a bit. We've been making strictly cuboid cases until now, but a stepped shape (the union of two cuboids) should be doable. That way you can have a slim case where it matters: at the front, but also keep your needed extra room.
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